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Old 06-22-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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After a lot of searching, this seems to sum up all the studies done in recent years:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...bad#gut-health

Effects on blood sugar and insulin
Sucralose is said to have little or no effects on blood sugar and insulin levels.

However, this may depend on you as an individual and whether you're used to consuming artificial sweeteners.

One small study in 17 people with severe obesity who didn’t regularly consume these sweeteners reported that sucralose elevated blood sugar levels by 14% and insulin levels by 20% (4Trusted Source).

Several other studies in people with average weight who didn’t have any significant medical conditions have found no effects on blood sugar and insulin levels. However, these studies included people who regularly used sucralose (5Trusted Source, 6Trusted Source, 7Trusted Source).

If you don't consume sucralose on a regular basis, it's possible that you may experience some changes to your blood sugar and insulin levels.

Yet, if you're used to eating it, it probably won't have any effect.


The URL does link to the original research though that doesn't come through in the above - they copied as "#Trusted Source".

So the one positive study was of only 17 participants and the impact was a relatively small 20% increase in insulin levels and 14% increase in glucose. This seems quite weak to me. I'm not saying there might not be longer term impacts of drinking diet soda over your lifetime, but there are few to no immediate effects.
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:41 AM
 
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Is there anything else she's eating that could be causing the problem? For example, there are a number of sugar free candies that contain maltitol, which does affect BG.

It concerns me that a hospice nurse is chastising one of her patients over anything. I'd be tempted to have a word with her supervisor.
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Old 06-23-2020, 08:16 AM
 
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Is there anything else she's eating that could be causing the problem? For example, there are a number of sugar free candies that contain maltitol, which does affect BG.

It concerns me that a hospice nurse is chastising one of her patients over anything. I'd be tempted to have a word with her supervisor.
No, she doesn't eat diet candy...her overall diet is not the best, and in fact they always give her the dessert! She was told it was okay as they use sweetener, not sugar....uhhhhh, that's what you are saying is bad about the diet soda! So completely inconsistent.

Apparently the aides have also been told not to give her the diet soda from the fridge in her room now....I don't really know how they can get away with that so I'm looking into it.
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:26 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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Not one mention of what other foods she is consuming but the focus on diet soda which generally speaking does not raise blood sugar. Seems strange, especially coming from doctors.

Let me mention a few foods that actually DO raise blood sugar.

Any foods made with or containing wheat flour, rice, potatoes, corn, fruit and a bunch of food additives, too many to mention. Milk also contains sugar. The obvious one would be sugar itself, which surprisingly does not spike blood sugar as much as potatoes.
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:04 PM
 
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So has anyone's doctor warned them not to drink diet soda? I'm sure there are comments about regular soda, juice, other sugary drinks - and general advice to drink mostly water. But specifically not to drink diet soda?

None of my doctors have ever said anything about it, and I have no idea why they would, since it doesn't raise my blood sugar.
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Old 06-23-2020, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Not one mention of what other foods she is consuming but the focus on diet soda which generally speaking does not raise blood sugar. Seems strange, especially coming from doctors.

Let me mention a few foods that actually DO raise blood sugar.

Any foods made with or containing wheat flour, rice, potatoes, corn, fruit and a bunch of food additives, too many to mention. Milk also contains sugar. The obvious one would be sugar itself, which surprisingly does not spike blood sugar as much as potatoes.
My guess is that THEIR food is "dietician approved" so it obviously is NOT the problem! The stuff I bring in is what is being questioned.
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Old 06-26-2020, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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My guess is that THEIR food is "dietician approved" so it obviously is NOT the problem! The stuff I bring in is what is being questioned.
This is terrible, & not a sign of a caring hospice. When my Uncle was moved to hospice, they told us, let him eat or drink whatever he wants, hospice is about comfort, not controlling peoples diet soda. Are you both happy with it, in all other aspects? Hugs
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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This is terrible, & not a sign of a caring hospice. When my Uncle was moved to hospice, they told us, let him eat or drink whatever he wants, hospice is about comfort, not controlling peoples diet soda. Are you both happy with it, in all other aspects? Hugs
Thanks...we are not that happy with the facility (within a regular nursing home) but do like the hospice people. As far as I know there are no actual hospices, but you pick a facility that does the basic care and then the hospice service "layers on" additional aides, nursing, chaplain services. Of course that has been more limited because of COVID.
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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I’m a diabetic , I’ve cut down on sweets ect 6 months ago , needed something sweet in my cereal , started using artificial sweeteners , found myself urinating every hour , and 7 times during the night , I did some googling , seems the artificial sweetener was causing all the problem , stopped using it , bladder is under control and back to normal , I threw the pink packets away , Im wondering Now if the same thing is in sugar free items too
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Old 08-31-2020, 02:17 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Complex problem/complex answer.

Diet soda consumption is correlated with higher BS, higher abd fat deposition, higher triglyds etc BUT (and we have a very big butt here) is it the chemicals or is it just that people with those problems "crave" sweet things and drink more of them as well as eat more sweet foods?

Answer that question and win the Nobel Prize.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...ive-sweeteners
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