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DON'T DIET . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER DIET. Dieting is a failure, and science has demonsrtrated SOUNDLY it does NOT work. Body weight is actively defended against . The ADIPOSTAT.
SCIENCE does NOT support ANYTHING the commercial weight loss industry frauds do.
Dieting is a wrong headed methodology based on a very poor understanding of what obesity is. The success rate of dieting after a decade? 1%
Science does not actually understand obesity that well.
Our body weight is NOT under conscious control for the most part. We ONLY choose to be about 10 pounds less, the lower end of our setpoints.That is all we "control"
Body weight is extremely complex and regulated over YEARS - LONG TERM
LONG TERM, eating nutrient dense and exercise do NOT affect body weight much. Eating well and exercising are for HEALTH MAINTENANCE NOT weight loss.
There are PLENTY of dedicated obese poeple eatin well and exercising. it does NOT treat morbid obesity effectively, nor cure it.
MUCH MORE needs to be learned about fat cell regulation.
Dr. Arya Sharma is a good place to EDUCATE yourselves about the hellishly complex subject of obesity
All the popular diets work. All will only work while you are on them, and then you will gain the weight back plus more. What works is, everything in moderation and portion control. My doctor once told me that we need 10% fewer calories for every decade of our lives just to stay even.
I weigh more than I should, and I know I could take it off, since I have before, but I also know that after hundreds of dollars and months of work, I will gain it back.
DON'T DIET . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER DIET. Dieting is a failure, and science has demonsrtrated SOUNDLY it does NOT work. Body weight is actively defended against . The ADIPOSTAT.
SCIENCE does NOT support ANYTHING the commercial weight loss industry frauds do.
Dieting is a wrong headed methodology based on a very poor understanding of what obesity is. The success rate of dieting after a decade? 1%
Science does not actually understand obesity that well.
Our body weight is NOT under conscious control for the most part. We ONLY choose to be about 10 pounds less, the lower end of our setpoints.That is all we "control"
Body weight is extremely complex and regulated over YEARS - LONG TERM
LONG TERM, eating nutrient dense and exercise do NOT affect body weight much. Eating well and exercising are for HEALTH MAINTENANCE NOT weight loss.
There are PLENTY of dedicated obese poeple eatin well and exercising. it does NOT treat morbid obesity effectively, nor cure it.
MUCH MORE needs to be learned about fat cell regulation.
Dr. Arya Sharma is a good place to EDUCATE yourselves about the hellishly complex subject of obesity
I don't agree, I think weight watchers is terrific, it's not a diet it's a way of life.
DON'T DIET . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER DIET. Dieting is a failure, and science has demonsrtrated SOUNDLY it does NOT work. Body weight is actively defended against . The ADIPOSTAT.
SCIENCE does NOT support ANYTHING the commercial weight loss industry frauds do.
Dieting is a wrong headed methodology based on a very poor understanding of what obesity is. The success rate of dieting after a decade? 1%
Science does not actually understand obesity that well.
Our body weight is NOT under conscious control for the most part. We ONLY choose to be about 10 pounds less, the lower end of our setpoints.That is all we "control"
Body weight is extremely complex and regulated over YEARS - LONG TERM
LONG TERM, eating nutrient dense and exercise do NOT affect body weight much. Eating well and exercising are for HEALTH MAINTENANCE NOT weight loss.
There are PLENTY of dedicated obese poeple eatin well and exercising. it does NOT treat morbid obesity effectively, nor cure it.
MUCH MORE needs to be learned about fat cell regulation.
Dr. Arya Sharma is a good place to EDUCATE yourselves about the hellishly complex subject of obesity
All the popular diets work. All will only work while you are on them, and then you will gain the weight back plus more. What works is, everything in moderation and portion control. My doctor once told me that we need 10% fewer calories for every decade of our lives just to stay even.
I weigh more than I should, and I know I could take it off, since I have before, but I also know that after hundreds of dollars and months of work, I will gain it back.
Or you could stay on one. I don't find it particularly difficult to maintain my low carb regimen to control my weight.
All the popular diets work. All will only work while you are on them, and then you will gain the weight back plus more. What works is, everything in moderation and portion control. My doctor once told me that we need 10% fewer calories for every decade of our lives just to stay even.
I weigh more than I should, and I know I could take it off, since I have before, but I also know that after hundreds of dollars and months of work, I will gain it back.
I think that is just due to natural muscle mass loss. Everyone has to find their own calorie threshold a bit. The leaner you are the more you need. I also think its partially because the body is known to develop up until 35 (bones and brain) but after 35 everyone starts to need less because our bodies stop doing that and also our hormones change. Less testosterone = softer body, less likely to put on lean tissue and more likely to gain weight due to being less metabolically active. Just random blabbing thoughts about that one.
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Whats worked for me is trying everything and finding what I liked.
I like some low carb recipes I picked up along the way and also of a way of eating if I went overboard the night before. Hands down though my favorite is counting calories and is a core principal in all "diets". Knowing calories and basic nutrition makes it easier to eat smart while enjoying yourself.
I think its also important to know how you should eat if you can't workout.
I see that problem for a lot of dieters. They get an injury or burnt out and quit exercising but eat like they are still exercising. This leads to gaining and quitting or the dreaded yo yo.
Its good to keep your self in check by 10 lbs. If you let it go beyond that...it can snowball. When gains happen you should review the why and be totally honest and make comfortable small changes to prevent the problem.
If you are not totally honest and blunt with yourself in weight loss...it will be hard to keep it off. For example...you want a cookie...ask yourself why...and then ask yourself if its worth it and what the consequences of that cookie will be. If you have room in your day for a cookie...chomp away. If you already ate all you should for the day, review your diet and figure out why you want a cookie when you don't need it and it will hinder your progress. Figure out if its you need more daily calories, more fiber, more carbs, more protien, more food spread evenly through the day, emo eating? (etc)
Address that issue and come up with a solution you put into action. Don't put it off.
And for activity whats worked for me is to not be a slave to one method. My goal is just to keep moving. So I try new things all the time. There are so many ways to stay active. It doesn't mean you have to plug time into the gym.
Last edited by Opsimathia; 01-04-2012 at 11:43 AM..
Science does not actually understand obesity that well.
And so, we should take the word of Arya Sharma, who you recommend further in your post - and who is, supposedly, a scientist (that's what doctors ARE). Because people like him, don't understand obesity. Even though, Arya Sharma is the head of an obesity research group, a professor of nutrition science, and a nutritionist. He's about as "scientific" of a scientist with regards to nutrition and obesity as you can get. But you say science doesn't actually understand obesity. But we should read his stuff because it's good.
Guess what: Dr. Arya Sharma says that diets DO work, and exercise DOES work, in helping people lose weight. Read your own recommended reading, dood. You'll be astounded at what you learn.
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