Can you eat 3000 calories of vegetables and fruit and still lose?

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by yayoi

Huh? The middle ground would be moderate carbs/moderate fat. I see this type of diet pushed all of the time (Weight Watchers).

Weight watchers doesnt exist on internet message boards

Only low carb, and the straw man low fat high carb diet that the low carb people like to use as a whipping boy.

[springfieldva]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

this.

The point of eating lots of vegetables (and to a lesser degree fruits) is NOT that calories from them are magically less important than calories from anything else, but that they are low in calories relative to bulk, and so leave you feeling more full, more satisfied, and less hungry, than the same number of calories from more calorie dense sources.

Very true - vegetables are filling. I eat a good portion of veggies at dinner time and I never go to bed hungry. In fact, I sincerely prefer the homemade veggie side dishes that I make over the pasta/rice side dishes that I used to make. And way less calories...

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by kayo_michael

You speak so highly of vegetarians.

Vegetarians usually become vegetarians for other reasons than to lose weight. It is a lifestyle and belief system. Someone looking for a way to lose weight may not embrace the vegetarian lifestyle as something they want to continue after they lose the weight.

[kayo_michael]

Originally Posted by Luckyd609

Vegetarians usually become vegetarians for other reasons than to lose weight. It is a lifestyle and belief system. Someone looking for a way to lose weight may not embrace the vegetarian lifestyle as something they want to continue after they lose the weight.

Regardless of a vegetarian's motives, it's a restrictive diet. Can't argue that. It takes devotion and discipline. You said it.