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Old 06-06-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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What a mess of a thread this has turned into.

All I have to add is that I eat meat, vegetables, and a little bit of dairy (cheese). Cut out all gluten, and feel the best I've felt in the past 7 years. The end.

Great googa mooga's!!! I agree.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Everyone has a diet theory.

I remember reading about some guy who was at one time the oldest man in America. He still lived independently, and if I remember correctly said that he'd been eating his meals mostly out of cans for decades. I think it was only one meal per day.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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I'm a 45 year old male
Eat red meat and die.
Don't eat red meat and die.
It's the grains and vegetable oils that kill people.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Tell that to the Japanese, the longest-lived people on the planet.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Tell it to Jack LaLanne's family. He died at the age of 96, and was a vegetarian and raw-food/juicer advocate for all of his adult life.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:29 AM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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I eat about 5 kg of red meat a week, and about the same in veges, with a cheat day, where I get to eat anything I want. I started this diet after I had a medical checkup, and my blood pressure was through the roof.

At 120 kg, I decided to start eating better and doing more cardio ( at the time, I was only doing powerlifting ) A year later I'm down to 90kg using this diet. But I have lost a lot of strength, I can no longer squat 240kg or bench 180. But now my blood pressure is only slightly higher then normal "nothing to worry about".
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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Red meat is actually quite high in phosphate and has a thyroid suppressing effect. Why the paleo crowd doesn't feel as well as they say they do, the movement is filled with strugglers who don't get it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Best shape of my life, blood tests are spectacular, no longer take Omega3 fish oil.
Yes, with similar results.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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We're not seeing excess calories = weight gain. It's insulin that is the culprit. Weight management is not driven by calorie counting, but rather by changing the way our body treats the food we eat (i.e., burning fat versus storing fat). Obesity is a disorder of inappropriately accumulating fat, not a disorder of eating too many calories.
You speak the truth.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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Basically, I've been eating what our ancestors ate: lots of fat, butter, cheese, fish, red meat (I eat mostly bison), ton of eggs, dark chocolate, heavy whipping cream protein shakes, and a little bit of yam and veggies here and there.

I eat virtually no sugar (though I do have to have it in my tea, but it's not much) and drink lots of tea. My carb intake is extremely small.

results? Best shape of my life, blood tests are spectacular, no longer take Omega3 fish oil.

Back in the early 1900s, a French explorer met with the Eskimos in the Yukon and he subsisted on nothing but fish and red meat. There were no other forms of foods. No veggies grew up there. The result after 2 years? Extremely healthy and became a major study that is now known pretty much as the Atkins or even parts of the South Beach Diet.

I do exercise, but we're not seeing evidence exercise helps with weight loss. The only real reason that exercising seems to help with weight loss is because people generally eat healthier. Exercise is important for a number of reasons, but weight management and controlling disease risk are not on the list, at least according to the best available evidence.

Here's a good infographic on this topic: Massive Health - Carbs Are Killing You [infographic]
I ate this type of diet for 10 years, very stressful & unhealthy. You need to start monitoring your pulse & temperature to see if you metabolism is dropping. It will. A pulse lower than 75-85 beats per minute indicates a slow metabolism.
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