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I have thought about that too.. Like it takes 2 hours to burn off 1 cookie with exercise for example, but if you don't eat that cookie, you wont have to do that 2 hours of exercise. just don't eat the cookie and you will have saved 200 calories and it was easy!
No, ChicagoMeO, What you are saying is exactly what I thought until I read the article! A group of scientist studied tribes all over the world, and also people who live a more modern life. They found that human women burn 1900 calories per day and human men 2600 calories per day--no matter what. It comes down to a very simple thing: if you eat above that number, you will gain. If you eat below that amount, you will lose--no matter where you live, what you eat, how much you exercise. It's wired into human beings for survival. You can't burn a cookie off.
Now, going back to my Mom, who told me when I was a kid that "it takes a five mile walk to burn off a candy bar," I believed her. She's 95 and I still believed her when she says "have a cookie, then take a walk. You'll burn it off" But, this revelation I had after reading the article in Scientific American was written with new data, so when people say it's obvious to them, it's not, because the study was just completed. None of us are scientists, we' re just everyday folks. But we believe so strongly that you can "burn it off" because people we think are sensible and knowledgeable have influenced us. Well it's not true that you can "burn it off".
No, ChicagoMeO, What you are saying is exactly what I thought until I read the article! A group of scientist studied tribes all over the world, and also people who live a more modern life. They found that human women burn 1900 calories per day and human men 2600 calories per day--no matter what. It comes down to a very simple thing: if you eat above that number, you will gain. If you eat below that amount, you will lose--no matter where you live, what you eat, how much you exercise. It's wired into human beings for survival. You can't burn a cookie off.
Now, going back to my Mom, who told me when I was a kid that "it takes a five mile walk to burn off a candy bar," I believed her. She's 95 and I still believed her when she says "have a cookie, then take a walk. You'll burn it off" But, this revelation I had after reading the article in Scientific American was written with new data, so when people say it's obvious to them, it's not, because the study was just completed. None of us are scientists, we' re just everyday folks. But we believe so strongly that you can "burn it off" because people we think are sensible and knowledgeable have influenced us. Well it's not true that you can "burn it off".
The value of exercise is a separate issue.
Could you please provide the link to the article. I would be very interested to read it. I did look for it but I could not find anything that jibes with what you are saying.
Could you please provide the link to the article. I would be very interested to read it. I did look for it but I could not find anything that jibes with what you are saying.
I bought the magazine from a new stand, and have since lended it to someone to read "on the plane". I'm anxious to get it back. This is the way SA offers the article. I'm seriously not selling magazines, Lol. It's 7 bucks!
Thanks for the link, unfortunately I have to purchase it in order to read it.
I hate to think this article will keep people from exercising since it seems to allude to that it does no good for losing weight.
Exercise is so much more than a vehicle for calorie burning. It s just about the best thing one can do for themselves regardless what they may weigh.
I also believe, but perhaps I now wrong that exercise does burn calories and can help keep the one's calories at a deficit if they are following a diet.
No, ChicagoMeO, What you are saying is exactly what I thought until I read the article! A group of scientist studied tribes all over the world, and also people who live a more modern life. They found that human women burn 1900 calories per day and human men 2600 calories per day--no matter what. It comes down to a very simple thing: if you eat above that number, you will gain. If you eat below that amount, you will lose--no matter where you live, what you eat, how much you exercise. It's wired into human beings for survival. You can't burn a cookie off.
Now, going back to my Mom, who told me when I was a kid that "it takes a five mile walk to burn off a candy bar," I believed her. She's 95 and I still believed her when she says "have a cookie, then take a walk. You'll burn it off" But, this revelation I had after reading the article in Scientific American was written with new data, so when people say it's obvious to them, it's not, because the study was just completed. None of us are scientists, we' re just everyday folks. But we believe so strongly that you can "burn it off" because people we think are sensible and knowledgeable have influenced us. Well it's not true that you can "burn it off".
The value of exercise is a separate issue.
Yeah, that's not what they found.
Since you can't burn off a cookie though, I have an experiment for you. Keep everything in your life constant and just do two things. 1) Eat a cookie every day. 2) Walk or run at least ten miles every day. Since you think you cannot burn a cookie, your hypothesis is that you will gain weight. Say a Subway chocolate chip cookie. That's got 220 calories. Since those calories cannot be burned you should gain almost two pounds in a month. Get back to me on how much you weigh after eating 31 cookies and walking/running 310 miles.
Thanks for the link, unfortunately I have to purchase it in order to read it.
I hate to think this article will keep people from exercising since it seems to allude to that it does no good for losing weight.
Exercise is so much more than a vehicle for calorie burning. It s just about the best thing one can do for themselves regardless what they may weigh.
I also believe, but perhaps I now wrong that exercise does burn calories and can help keep the one's calories at a deficit if they are following a diet.
I doubt it. It just says, from one sentence blurb, that "exercise alone won't shed pounds." Basically that's not surprising to anyone who knows anything about exercise and eating. That you can't shed pounds by shoveling as much food as you want into your face isn't news to anyone. Probably just the normal can't outrun your fork but that won't sell a $7 magazine.
What the article says is that the research shows that it is "counterintuitive" to the way people have always thought about weight loss. It also says that exercise (which is very important to health, by the way, no one disputes that) is NOT one of the components, at all, for bringing that number on the scale DOWN. It is calorie restriction that brings that number DOWN. Keeping your total calories under 1900 per day for women or 2600 calories per day for men.
Malloric, I'm using the cookie illustration for just that, as an illustration.
Another thing that is not disputed is the quality of calories that are consumed--cookies vs. vegetables, for example. But the article is talking about TOTAL calories being the source for weight gain or loss. You can gain weight on vegetables, just eat more than 1900/2600 per day.
I don't care if anyone reads or buys the magazine, I just want to share that this is really radically different than anything that I have heard. I may not be scientific, but I'm a reasonably intelligent, well read person and it's news to me that you "can't burn it off", having heard that my entire life. Lucky, your sentence saying "you can't shed pounds by shoveling as much food as you want into your face...." is insulting and dismissive.
Everything you read is correct. However, technically, you can burn it off. The problem is that it would take an exorbitant amount of exercise. For instance, the folks on The Biggest Loser have what they call their daily burn. They are required to burn 5k -10k calories via exercise per day. That's over 6 hours a day. It's not practical or efficient for regular people.
Everything you read is correct. However, technically, you can burn it off. The problem is that it would take an exorbitant amount of exercise. For instance, the folks on The Biggest Loser have what they call their daily burn. They are required to burn 5k -10k calories via exercise per day. That's over 6 hours a day. It's not practical or efficient for regular people.
So, all of the calculations that "they" have done on every single body movement you do through out the day and their equivalent calorie burn per hour is BS. "walking up stairs" vs. "walking on flat surface" for so many minutes out of an hour, is BS. Although the health benefits are completely something different, but the actually amount if calories you burn for doing that is BS. You burn nothing. It's life impacting for those of us that believe it, faithfully logged in and kept that data--for years, like it meant something. B....S.......I am stunned.
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