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Old 01-19-2020, 05:28 PM
 
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There's only 16 calories in a teaspoon of normal, garden variety mundane cane sugar. If the only thing you're adding sugar to is your morning cup of coffee, I'd say go for the sugar. Walk from one side of the parking lot to the other at a brisk pace, and you will have walked off those 16 calories.
Sounds great, so why do the coffee drinks people buy at Starbucks have 600 calories? It’s because not many people stop at one cup of coffee or use just one teaspoon of sugar. They love sweets and will make up all sorts of rationalizations to feed the need. I knew a guy (T2 diabetic, gone now) who would dump a huge quantity of sugar in his coffee to “cool it off”.

Moderation is wonderful, but hard to find in the real world.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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I knew a guy (T2 diabetic, gone now) who would dump a huge quantity of sugar in his coffee to “cool it off”.
There are plenty of non-compliant T2D's out there, obviously in denial that anything bad could happen to them.

There was one here at work.
He was always the first one in line when someone brought donuts. Thought he could eat donuts because he "took metformin".
Guy's still around but now he has a push-button foot and a pacemaker.

IMO, just about the worst thing you can do if you're a T2D is get an insulin pump.
Now you've got license to eat whatever and not spike. Everyone i know who has one is very obese.
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I just don't like the way any of them taste. I don't really use sweeteners though so it doesn't matter that much. Made 1/2 buckwheat, 1/2 wholewheat pankcakes this morning. Normally I use a banana and blue berries for sweetner but didn't have any bananas so I used a tablespoon of honey instead, roughly the same sugar content. They're better with a banana. Mostly I just use regular sugar and maple syrup. Honey most of it just ends up turning solid on me but I'll buy a small jar now and again.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:37 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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Sounds great, so why do the coffee drinks people buy at Starbucks have 600 calories? It’s because not many people stop at one cup of coffee or use just one teaspoon of sugar. They love sweets and will make up all sorts of rationalizations to feed the need. I knew a guy (T2 diabetic, gone now) who would dump a huge quantity of sugar in his coffee to “cool it off”.

Moderation is wonderful, but hard to find in the real world.
That has nothing to do with the response to the person asking what sweetener to put in her morning cup of coffee.

She's not asking how to put together a 600-calorie "coffee drink." Coffee "drinks" have lots of calories. But she's not asking about coffee drinks. She's talking about an actual cup of actual coffee. A cup of plain black coffee is approximately 5 calories, total. Not 600. Five. A single teaspoon of sugar in that cup of plain black coffee is an additional 16 calories, for a total of 21 calories. A tablespoon of 1% milk in that 21-calorie cup of coffee is an additional 9 calories, for a total of 30 calories, for a cup of coffee with 1 teaspoon of sugar and 1 tablespoon of 1% milk.

If she's trying to lose weight, a single morning cup of unflavored, plain, ordinary drip, pod, or french pressed coffee with a teaspoon of real actual sugar and a tablespoon of 1% milk will not break her diet.
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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That has nothing to do with the response to the person asking what sweetener to put in her morning cup of coffee.

She's not asking how to put together a 600-calorie "coffee drink." Coffee "drinks" have lots of calories. But she's not asking about coffee drinks. She's talking about an actual cup of actual coffee. A cup of plain black coffee is approximately 5 calories, total. Not 600. Five. A single teaspoon of sugar in that cup of plain black coffee is an additional 16 calories, for a total of 21 calories. A tablespoon of 1% milk in that 21-calorie cup of coffee is an additional 9 calories, for a total of 30 calories, for a cup of coffee with 1 teaspoon of sugar and 1 tablespoon of 1% milk.

If she's trying to lose weight, a single morning cup of unflavored, plain, ordinary drip, pod, or french pressed coffee with a teaspoon of real actual sugar and a tablespoon of 1% milk will not break her diet.
Great, your recipe is for a coffee that nobody actually drinks.
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:59 AM
 
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Great, your recipe is for a coffee that nobody actually drinks.
And certainly not with milk in it!
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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Great, your recipe is for a coffee that nobody actually drinks.
You seriously don't believe that there aren't people who drink their coffee with just one teaspoon of sugar & a little milk?

That's probably one of the most common ways to drink coffee. In fact, there are actually in this world millions of coffee lovers who drink their unadulterated coffee with ::gasp:: no sweeteners or other enhancements whatsoever!

Imagine that!
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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And certainly not with milk in it!
It's not even available at work. They have Coffee Mate in the industrial size.
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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It's not even available at work. They have Coffee Mate in the industrial size.
Apparently, even "non-dairy" creamer has milk by-products (lactose).
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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There's only 16 calories in a teaspoon of normal, garden variety mundane cane sugar. If the only thing you're adding sugar to is your morning cup of coffee, I'd say go for the sugar. Walk from one side of the parking lot to the other at a brisk pace, and you will have walked off those 16 calories.
This. I add a squeeze of honey in my daily cup of tea. Unless you are diabetic and cannot have any sugar at all, ever, I'd say add the bit of sugar into your coffee.

If you were to add raw sugar, you might feel you could get by with less, because of the taste.

If you really want to use a no calorie sweetener, then I don't see why you could not use sucralose. In the amount you would need in one cup of coffee, you surely wouldn't be hurting yourself any worse than using sugar or honey.

I seldom use artificial sweeteners. But I will use artificially sweetened coffee syrups, which are usually sucralose sweetened.
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