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Old 10-15-2020, 06:11 AM
 
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Jan. 2, 2020 -- For the third year in a row, the Mediterranean diet has been named the best diet overall in the U.S. News & World Report annual rankings.


In 2018, the Mediterranean diet shared top honors with the DASH (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension) diet. Both focus on fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. The ketogenic diet, one of the most popular, again fared well in the annual survey, but only in the fast weight loss category. Overall, it was not rated highly.
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Old 10-15-2020, 07:55 AM
 
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In 2018, the Mediterranean diet shared top honors with the DASH (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension) diet. Both focus on fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. The ketogenic diet, one of the most popular, again fared well in the annual survey, but only in the fast weight loss category. Overall, it was not rated highly.
Obviously, it will make you healthy and you won't have a need for doctors and nutritonists... so they aren't going to rate it highly.
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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Depends on the person........the concept of a blanket rating for any diet does not make sense to me.

Some people do great on a very low-fat/high-carb diet.....others do horribly. Ditto that for just about every way of eating under the sun.
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Old 10-15-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I won't speak to the Keto diet specifically. My comment is on the ranking as Mediterranean being best and Keto being worst. This could be, I don't know. My comment is about Physicians.

Many of us no longer trust the AMA or their brainwashed physicians to know the truth or to tell us the truth when they know it. They told us carbs were good for so long and that carbs were the foundation of the food pyramid for so long, many of us no longer trust them.

So when they tell us that you MUST eat a low fat diet, many of us no longer believe them. When they tell us you MUST eat a low cholesterol diet, many of us no longer believe them.

I have an excellent primary doctor, but I am at war with him over Statin drugs. He swears by them as massively effective to avoid heart disease and perfectly safe. As a laymen, I can't dispute his AMA pushed views, but I do research on the internet, and have found Statin drugs are massively controversial right now, both regarding effectiveness in people who don't have heart disease, and regarding safety via side effects such as muscle weakness and memory loss.

So my doctor is telling me statins are safe and effective -- THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED, NOBODY DISPUTES THIS -- and then I find 100 youtube videos of real doctors and real PhD scientists disputing this.

And then I see videos like these.








What am I to think? Who do I trust?

At this point I am more likely to turn to other sources regarding the best diet rather than health car professionals brainwashed by schools and pummelled by the AMA.

Again, I am not saying Keto good, Mediterranean bad. I am just shooting the messenger. I don't trust the doctors anymore. They seem to be bringing up the rear. And the kicker is, they may be perfectly right. It is just they have lost my automatic trust and they are going to have to earn that back.

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Old 10-16-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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I think a big problem here is that Keto can be hard to follow indefinitely..it's a great tool for initial weight loss but it's hard to sustain that way of eating forever. I do great on a lower carb diet but others i know don't need to do that. I don't' eat keto or anything but I also don't typically go over 60-70 grams of carbs a day.
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I think a big problem here is that Keto can be hard to follow indefinitely..it's a great tool for initial weight loss but it's hard to sustain that way of eating forever. I do great on a lower carb diet but others i know don't need to do that. I don't' eat keto or anything but I also don't typically go over 60-70 grams of carbs a day.
I believe that is the reason it does not rank higher. Its an incredibly hard way to eat indefinitely.
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Old 10-16-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I think a big problem here is that Keto can be hard to follow indefinitely..it's a great tool for initial weight loss but it's hard to sustain that way of eating forever. I do great on a lower carb diet but others i know don't need to do that. I don't' eat keto or anything but I also don't typically go over 60-70 grams of carbs a day.
At that point it's just Atkins though, which is decidedly not trendy or cool for those who need the bandwagon.
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis, East Side
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I have an excellent primary doctor, but I am at war with him over Statin drugs. He swears by them as massively effective to avoid heart disease and perfectly safe. As a laymen, I can't dispute his AMA pushed views, but I do research on the internet, and have found Statin drugs are massively controversial right now, both regarding effectiveness in people who don't have heart disease, and regarding safety via side effects such as muscle weakness and memory loss.
I'd ask for the studies showing numbers needed to treat to prevent one heart attack (it's something like 100, IIRC) and how much longer you'll live on them (a couple of days, on average, again IIRC).

Cholesterol makes up much of your brain, helps with healing, and it's a precursor to other hormones. High cholesterol, in some cases, indicates a problem: if your body is making lots of it, there's a reason.

Dr. Malcolm Kendrick has looked into statin drugs as much as anyone I know of and Dr. William Davis is a former cardiologist who has a program that helped turn my health around. I don't get any consideration for sending people their way.

But back to the topic, you only have to take a look at most doctors and dietitians to see that whatever diet they follow isn't working.
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Old 10-17-2020, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I'd ask for the studies showing numbers needed to treat to prevent one heart attack (it's something like 100, IIRC) and how much longer you'll live on them (a couple of days, on average, again IIRC).

Cholesterol makes up much of your brain, helps with healing, and it's a precursor to other hormones. High cholesterol, in some cases, indicates a problem: if your body is making lots of it, there's a reason.

Dr. Malcolm Kendrick has looked into statin drugs as much as anyone I know of and Dr. William Davis is a former cardiologist who has a program that helped turn my health around. I don't get any consideration for sending people their way.

But back to the topic, you only have to take a look at most doctors and dietitians to see that whatever diet they follow isn't working.
Thanks for the recommendation for Dr. Malcolm Kendrick. I just downloaded his latest book, "A Statin Nation" and reading it now. Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2020, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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I have done a diet somewhere between keto atkins (too low protein for atkins, too low in fat for keto) for 2 years nowand I've never been healther...I'm in my 50s. I have followed pretty much any meal plan you can think of (weight watchers/slim fast/medi-fast, low fat, counting calories, etc).

Basically, I do not eat processed food or sugar. No white flour. Typically, I'm eating eggs, nuts, olive oil, avocados, lots of non-starchy veggies, meat, seafood, and my "sweets" are berries and melons. I may go off for special occasions, but I end up feeling terrible and regret it.

I do drink alcohol, but it's a vodka and soda or a glass of a wine.

I think most eating plans require you to think about food too much, whether it be counting calories, fat, points, etc. And that makes me hungry.

I also think that the processed stuff, especially sugar, is addictive. I think most people would love to still eat junk and be healthy. It isn't until you realize that it's not possible that you get healthy.
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