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Old 03-07-2021, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I can't say I "enjoy" exercise. But I love the health benefits, it makes me feel better and more energized, and I like the toned aesthetic. It keeps my blood pressure down, makes my blood glucose numbers more stable, and prevents my RA from progressing with permanent damage. It is also crazy good for your immune systems health.
You can do that without any exercise. Because the body wants to be healthy. If you weren't healthy, that is simply the result of poor dietary and lifestyle choices. No exercise can fix those problems.

You can eat processed foods every day and no exercise can fix the inflammation caused by those poor diet choices.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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You can do that without any exercise. Because the body wants to be healthy. If you weren't healthy, that is simply the result of poor dietary and lifestyle choices. No exercise can fix those problems.

You can eat processed foods every day and no exercise can fix the inflammation caused by those poor diet choices.
ROFL. You are SO wrong.


I'm 54 years old, and I have seen it repeatedly. I exercise, my numbers are good, I don't exercise my numbers turn bad. Repeatedly.

I eat a very healthy diet, whole foods, mainly vegetables and fruit, whole grains, some meat.

Don't even try the gluten intolerance shpeel. I went gluten free for two years, with no change.
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Old 03-07-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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Again, science books say a whole bunch of things that aren't true. So some doctor actually comes along and does the actual research and finds out that ... hunters in Africa and humans in an office in NYC have about the same calories burned per day...

Well "Science" then tells us that every common belief that we have about exercise is ... open to questioning.
I’m not talking about science books but actual research studies based on observed data. If exercise does nothing as claimed then where is that data? We should easily be able to observe this data. Yes, I agree that diet is a big part of being healthy but to make the false claim that exercise does nothing is a bit of an exaggeration.
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Old 03-07-2021, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Maybe you are reading the wrong science books.
And a complete ignorance of how scientific research is done and how the results are disseminated. (Hint: it's not through "science books.")
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Old 03-07-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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Perhaps with the convoluted logic and twisting of information the OP should consider yoga?
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Old 03-07-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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You can do that without any exercise. Because the body wants to be healthy. If you weren't healthy, that is simply the result of poor dietary and lifestyle choices. No exercise can fix those problems.

You can eat processed foods every day and no exercise can fix the inflammation caused by those poor diet choices.
Last time I checked eating healthy did not release endorphins, serotonin, and dopamine neurotransmitters which are related to pain and depression emotions. It’s shouldn’t be an either or dilemma. Exercising and nutrition go hand in hand and exercise provides many benefits that’s eating healthy alone cannot provide.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Last time I checked eating healthy did not release endorphins, serotonin, and dopamine neurotransmitters which are related to pain and depression emotions. It’s shouldn’t be an either or dilemma. Exercising and nutrition go hand in hand and exercise provides many benefits that’s eating healthy alone cannot provide.
But if you really hate exercise you look for excuses.
Diet and exercise like you say do indeed go hand in hand. The benefits of exercise are numerous. I find it very transparent when people try and convince you that exercise is either pointless or bad for you.
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Old 03-08-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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But if you really hate exercise you look for excuses.
Diet and exercise like you say do indeed go hand in hand. The benefits of exercise are numerous. I find it very transparent when people try and convince you that exercise is either pointless or bad for you.
exactly, when people make excuses for not exercising we call those barriers. Also, we have data showing that exercise increases life expectancy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...cal%20activity.

So much for those in the exercise does nothing camp showing any real data of their baseless claims.
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Old 03-08-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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This is one of those things that depends on the peculiarities of one's metabolism.

Exercise never resulted in any weight loss for me.

Right now I am doing 3 hours of slow walking each day, which hardly anyone could remotely consider an exercise, yet I have been dropping pounds.
Clearly, I found something that works for me, but I doubt that if we picked 100 random people off the street, that more than 10 would have same result.


I love elliptical, but I will only use it to prep for hiking from now via interval training across 2-3 weeks - this will give you enough endurance for a 16 hour hike up the mountain.
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Old 03-08-2021, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Again, science books say a whole bunch of things that aren't true. So some doctor actually comes along and does the actual research and finds out that ... hunters in Africa and humans in an office in NYC have about the same calories burned per day...

Well "Science" then tells us that every common belief that we have about exercise is ... open to questioning.



If it makes you feel better that is a legit reason for it.

But we do not know for sure, that it does anything for blood pressure, reduces glucose, or does anything for RA and the immune system. I would argue that given the new information that is coming out we need to start questioning if all the alleged benefits are actually benefits of exercise or perhaps are just associations which may be caused by other things.
Your statement implies that science books aren't backed by "actual research." It also ignores the myriad of studies on the benefits of exercise.
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