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This stuff has been around for a long time and is used for fertility issues as well as weight loss, among other things. I for one feel great on the VLCD and hcg drops. I am on day 20 and my personal Doctor and her husband are on day 10. I've gone off all my meds under her supervision and I am doing fine! I very rarely feel hungry and I never feel light headed or dizzy as you would expect from "starving yourself". As a matter of fact, I haven't felt this good in years! I hope the naysayers here will read Dr. Simeons protocol and learn about this diet before condeming it.
This stuff has been around for a long time and is used for fertility issues as well as weight loss, among other things. I for one feel great on the VLCD and hcg drops. I am on day 20 and my personal Doctor and her husband are on day 10. I've gone off all my meds under her supervision and I am doing fine! I very rarely feel hungry and I never feel light headed or dizzy as you would expect from "starving yourself". As a matter of fact, I haven't felt this good in years! I hope the naysayers here will read Dr. Simeons protocol and learn about this diet before condeming it.
I have read Dr. Simeon's nonsensical protocol. The theory behind it is junk. If you eat only 500 calories per day, you will lose weight, but a significant percentage of the weight loss will be muscle, and since you cannot survive forever on 500 calories a day, when you go off the diet, you will most likely regain what you've lost plus more.
The diet is poor nutrition based on fallacies.
HCG does not cause weight loss, preserve muscle, or prevent hunger. It is an expensive scam. HCG drops are probably not even absorbed. I am waiting for someone to cite proof that they are. No takers yet.
If you truely did read Dr. Simeon's protocol you will have read he recommends a "maintenance" phase after taking the shots or drops and following the VLCD then goes on to teach you to eat sensibly, in moderation,and to excersise regularly. He says you can have sugar and starchs in small amounts but stick with protien and vegies. Things we already know but once you complete the diet your matabilism should be jump started, you will have better eating habits and you will be on your way to a healthier you.
Why are you so against this diet? You say you know ONE person it didn't work for. I'll bet your friend did not follow the directions completly. You want proof? I will be more than happy to show you MY proof. I will post my results, pictures and diary, next month. That might have been my first post but geez...weren't you once the "one post wonder"? I thought this site was for EVERYONE'S opinion.
This thread started with the question 'does anyone have experience with the hcg diet?' From what I have seen here there are a LOT of people who have had a very good experience on this diet. The only people posting anything negative are those who have not tried it. Honestly, my only complaint is dry hands and I miss my hand lotion but baby oil fresh out of the shower takes care of it. Other than that I Feel Fantastic!!
I have nothing to gain financially or otherwise and neither does my Doctor. I don't pay her to give me shots or drops (I bought my drops online) and again, she is even on the diet (shots) and LOVES it. You want further proof? Call her...Her name is Dr. Norine Borino at Pershing General Hospital.
As for the expense...I paid $70 dollars for 6 oz of drops and believe me...I have saved that and more at the grocery store!
I can't stress enough how good I feel following Dr. Simeon's protocol!
That will always be the case in this thread. Same one or two people creating new accounts just to reiterate their same old tired point about HCG with hopes of prying some money out of the hands of people who REALLY need help to lose weight.
Again and again we go with the "protocol" and "blood work" with this horrible program. Anyone who wants to lose weight and is considering any diet program should be first and foremost concerned with the NUTRITON of the program then the EXERCISE benefits of the program. This dangerous "protocol" by this non-existent, supposedly European doctor, who exists in several different forms in many different HCG websites, calls for a bingeing on horrible unhealthy sugary and fattening foods at the beginning of the program, then discourages any form of exercise. Those two things alone should discourage anyone from considering this.
DO NOT CONSIDER THE HCG DIET!! DO NOT CONSIDER THE HCG DIET!!! Try Body For Life, Weight Watchers, CrossFit, take Karate, join a gym, take yoga, learn about proper nutrition, do ANYTHING other than this HCG. IT IS NOT A GOOD PROGRAM. In fact, it is a horrible program.
Ya, we get it. You think it is a bad diet and in your opinion "dangerous". Is that your professional opinion?
Yes, 500 calories a day is not enough to survive on for an extended period of time. The protocol specifically tells you DO NOT TRY THIS VLCD without the drops/shots. It also goes on to say DO NOT stay on the diet longer than 40 days. Keep reading his original manuscript and you will see he recommends low impact excersise for a min of 1 hour a day. Please, do some research, look for the original manuscript as there are a lot of sites out there that have modified the plan. I will not say here where to get the manuscript for fear of being accused of trying to "gain something" for myself but I will say that I was able to download it for free. Check your local library, if they don't have it, they can order it for you.
As for the 'binging on horrible unhealthy sugary and fattening foods', aren't we doing that already? How many Christmas cookies or pieces of Thanksgiving pie do we have at the holidays? Dr. Simeons says eat a bowl of ice cream...not the whole gallon.
This diet is not intended to be used as a lifestyle. It is to help take off the weight so many of us struggle with. Body for life, ww, crossfit, karate, gym, yoga and proper nutrition is a lifestyle and one to aspire to! This is just to get you going in the right direction.
Talk to your health care provider. I bet they would agree. The hcg drops or shots are not dangerous. There are many drugs out there used for many different applications such as viagra, or Bupropion (an anti-depressent) used by the American Cancer Society as a quit smoking aid.
Testimonials are not scientific? How do you think scientists get their information and are able to discover new drugs and if they are effictive?
LOL. are you serious?
certainly not testimonials. and study done over a long period of time and worth a damn would have it monitored every day with specific measurments and wouldn't go by what a enrollee would just claim. this is why 'testimonials' for gimmick diets are worth nothing. an obese dieter claims eating 1500 calories a day on a diet and says no weight loss. in controlled study where calories were MONITORED at 1500 calories the results would be much different. its been proven over and over that fat individuals underestimate caloric intake. that fat dieter says shes eating 1800 calories and when its accurately reported its more like 3000. over and over and over.
=sueey2;16726682]If you truely did read Dr. Simeon's protocol you will have read he recommends a "maintenance" phase after taking the shots or drops and following the VLCD then goes on to teach you to eat sensibly, in moderation,and to excersise regularly. He says you can have sugar and starchs in small amounts but stick with protien and vegies. Things we already know but once you complete the diet your matabilism should be jump started, you will have better eating habits and you will be on your way to a healthier you.
Your "matibilism" will not be "jump started". If anything, very low calorie diets produce undesirable changes in your metabolism. These changes, partially due to loss of muscle mass, promote weight gain at lower calorie intake when you go off the diet. Simeon's Pounds and Inches is filled with absurd, inaccurate interpretations of physiology. It does not give any dietary help for maintenance, except to say if you gain a couple of pounds, don't eat the next day. His "abnormal fat" does not exist.
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Why are you so against this diet? You say you know ONE person it didn't work for. I'll bet your friend did not follow the directions completly. You want proof? I will be more than happy to show you MY proof. I will post my results, pictures and diary, next month. That might have been my first post but geez...weren't you once the "one post wonder"? I thought this site was for EVERYONE'S opinion.
Dear heart, you are missing the point. The HCG has nothing to do with the weight loss. Any weight loss is due to the severe restriction in calories, which is far too little to maintain function of major body processes, including brain function. The weight loss is not "proof" that HCG is doing anything. Studies in which neither the patients nor the doctors knew who got HCG and who got a placebo injection are "proof" that HCG does not work. The people in both groups lose the same amount of weight. HCG does not do anything to cause anyone to lose weight. Those who promote it are propagating a scam which costs people a lot of money.
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This thread started with the question 'does anyone have experience with the hcg diet?' From what I have seen here there are a LOT of people who have had a very good experience on this diet. The only people posting anything negative are those who have not tried it. Honestly, my only complaint is dry hands and I miss my hand lotion but baby oil fresh out of the shower takes care of it. Other than that I Feel Fantastic!!
The idea that using cosmetics and hand lotions will cause you to gain weight is one of the most ludicrous aspects of the "protocol". It doe not happen!
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I have nothing to gain financially or otherwise and neither does my Doctor. I don't pay her to give me shots or drops (I bought my drops online) and again, she is even on the diet (shots) and LOVES it. You want further proof? Call her...Her name is Dr. Norine Borino at Pershing General Hospital.
As for the expense...I paid $70 dollars for 6 oz of drops and believe me...I have saved that and more at the grocery store!
You wasted $70. Please provide a source that proves that HCG can be taken by mouth and be absorbed.
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I can't stress enough how good I feel following Dr. Simeon's protocol!
I am glad you feel great, but it does not prove that HCG causes weight loss. The HCG is worthless. It is harmless, but it does nothing to cause weight loss and is a monumental waste of money.
Excerpt (forward) from Dr. Siemons original manuscript:
This book discusses a new interpretation of the nature of obesity, and while it does not advocate yet another fancy slimming diet it does describe a method of treatment which has grown out of theoretical considerations based on clinical observation. During the 16 years that have elapsed since I first published my findings, I have had many hundreds of inquiries from research institutes, doctors and patients. Hitherto I could only refer those interested to my scientific papers, though I realized that these did not contain sufficient information to enable doctors to conduct the new treatment satisfactorily. Those who tried were obliged to gain their own experience through the many trials and errors which I have long since overcome.
Simeon's "theoretical considerations based on clinical observation" are absolutely ridiculous. His version of physiology is not based on reality. The "protocol," including the prohibition against using cosmetics containing oils, is ludicrous. HCG is an expensive scam. HCG does not promote weight loss, the very low calorie diet is self defeating in the long run, and a significant portion of the weight lost on the diet is muscle, not fat.
Sale of HCG for weight loss is a big, expensive scam.
First, thank you for the correction. Mrs. Borino is a Nurse Practitoner working in the clinic under another Doctor there. My point was that even a health care provider is a believer.
Second, why do I feel so darn good? I have been watching myself very closely for signs of dehydration, fatigue, headaches, severe hunger etc. I know I personally can not live on 500 calories a day alone. I have been monitoring my food intake, weight, excersise etc on my-calorie-counter.com for a little over a year now and have been keeping it around 1500 a day. Some days that just wasn't enough and I was hungry! I am a foodie at heart. Since taking the drops I do not feel hunger pains like I would without them. Now maybe for a couple of days you might be able to live on 500 calories a day but I'm on day 23 and I feel great! My blood pressure was 104/70 last week when it was checked at the clinic. I have lost 20 lbs, 4% body fat and 4.5 inches off my waist. I walk a min of 2 miles on the treadmill every day without a problem. I do not feel that I'm losing muscle as I also lift 8 lb weights every other day and I just stacked 16 rows of bricks on a pallet in my back yard. If you ever do work like that you will know it's not easy. I'm not tired, just the opposite in fact. I am doing things around the house until 9-10 o'clock at night before I force myself to go to bed where as before I would be exhausted and in bed by 8, wathcing tv with a snack. 30 min of tv or a book and I'm asleep and don't wake up until morning and I sleep like a baby.
So once again I will address the original question of 'does anyone have experience with the hgc diet?' The answer is Yes, I have a had a very favorable experience with the hcg diet. It works.
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