Anyone know anything about a Pomeranian/Shih Poo mix? (shih tzu, poodles, clean)
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My wife and daughter have been begging me for a dog for the longest time. Someone I know has some of these pups they are giving away for free.
Anyone know what kind of dog this is?
Bark/Shed alot (more than average)
I have never had a dog, my wife grew up in a family where they always had a dog.
My biggest concern is coming home to see the dog went to the bathroom everywhere.
It sounds like a mixture of three breeds. **** Tsu (spelling??), Pomeranian and Poodle. Poodles don't shed but when mixed with other breeds you just don't know what you will get.
Yes pups have to be house trained and there will be accidents while they are learning. Will your wife be home with the pup during the day? There is a thread on here posted by ViralMD that is fantastic for house training.
One question.....How did this person end up with these pups?
do you mean a pomeranian / shih tzu mix or a pomeranian / shih tzu / poodle mix?? since you say the puppies are being given away for free, i'm guessing that this is not someone trying to pass off some sort of new designer breed.....
either way .... jesse is right .... you're going to have some shedding.... the amount will depend on where the genetic roulette wheel lands if there is actually poodle in this dog......
and yeah, puppies are a LOT of work..... and there WILL be accidents until it is old enough to have control over its bladder and bowel functions AND learn its consistent, positive training.....
look for the housetraining posts that viralmd posted on NUMEROUS occasions in these forums.......
You can crate train your dog so when you go out he will be safe in the crate. But like others mentioned even the best house trained pet has accidents occasionally or get sick all over the carpet. That is just what you have to expect. Doesn't happen every day but it can happen.
You never know if they are going to be a barker either but you can train them not to bark as much.
I think it would be a cute mix, but then I am a sucker for puppies
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ViralMD, one of the moderators on this forum, has given these instructions a number of times on this forum. Here they are:
Below is my housetraining post. IT WORKS. But you must follow it TO THE LETTER, as must EVERYONE in the house. It's good for puppies AND grown dogs. And realize that some dogs NEVER learn to signal. Neither of my dogs does.
Housetraining your dog (puppy or adult!)
The first thing you need to do is to remember that you’re trying to reinforce a new behavior. That means that the rewards for this behavior must be WONDERFUL. NOT crap from the store. Wonderful treats are poached chicken breast/turkey breast, cheese and steak. And you don’t have to use big pieces. Tiny pieces (about 3mm cubes) are just fine! I poach a whole turkey breast every few weeks, cut it into hunks when it’s cool enough to handle, wrap them well and store them in the freezer. When I need some, I’ll thaw a hunk overnight and cut off pieces and dice finely, storing them in a plastic bag in the fridge. One hunk will last about five days. Cheese is also popular, so variety is fine.
I carry these plastic bags in my jacket pockets in the winter and in a fanny pack in warmer weather. You HAVE to have these with you, or this method won’t work, because you need to reward as soon as the dog finishes pooping or peeing. It’s not going to work if the rewards are in the house.
Remember that you’re trying to change a very ingrained behavior. Some dogs like to feel certain things under their feet when they eliminate, like fabric, or newspaper. This is called a ‘substrate preference.’ What you’re trying to do is change this substrate preference, and to do that you have to make the treats SO wonderful that the dog will change this very well-entrenched behavior. Thus the chicken, cheese, steak.
I love clicker training, but this can be done without clickers. You just need a way to ‘mark’ the behavior you want to reinforce. Use the word ‘YESSSSS!!!!’ very enthusiastically – that works for some.
You’re going to need to GO OUTSIDE WITH your dog and the dog needs to be on a leash. Yes, even in winter. If you don’t reward IMMEDIATELY after the event (when dog immediately finishes pooping or peeing) and wait inside, the dog is going to be reinforced for coming inside, not for doing its business. So, leash up your dog. STAND IN ONE PLACE. Be boring. Bring a book or magazine for yourself.
Eventually, the dog will do what you’re waiting for. The NANOSECOND that the dog is finished, HAVE A PARTY – lots of loud, high-pitched praise, treats and running around. You want to make this memorable for your dog! You’ll find that once the first event is achieved, the others will come more quickly. Keep on treating (you don’t have to throw a party except for milestones – a milestone = if he only pooped outside but now peed, too, or something equivalent to that) until he’s good and used to peeing/pooping outside. Before you know it, you have a trained dog.
Regarding accidents in the house: NO SCOLDING. Just clean them up. If you scold you’ll get the dog to think it’s bad to pee or poop and he’ll do it in places you won’t see. Until you step in it. Invest in a big bottle of Nature’s Miracle or Simple Solution and use it liberally on accidents.
To quote Patricia McConnell, author of “The Other End of the Leash” and co-author of “Way to Go” (a booklet on housetraining), “Once you face the fact that you just have take your dog out every time you turn around, give them the treat immeditely after they potty, and prevent accidents in the house… well, it usually goes so smoothly.”
With young puppies, remember they have little control of the muscle that holds the bladder closed. This is something they grow into. Just as it’s not expected that a human baby is toilet trained at six months, don’t expect much from a puppy. Patience, patience, patience!!!! The nervous system in a puppy has to mature, and it won’t have much control over the sphincter (closing muscle) at the neck of the bladder until six or seven months. The same goes for the anal sphincter. Until control is achieved, both of these muscles operate on reflex: there are stretch receptors in the bladder wall. When the bladder is full, it sends impulses to the spinal cord and these, in turn, send signals to the sphincter to open and the dog pees.
In the stomach wall, there are also stretch receptors. So when the dog eats and the stomach is stretched, the impulses again go to the spinal cord, but this time the reflex, outgoing, nerve signals are sent to the anal sphincter, so the dog defecates. This operates in people, too – which is why some people rush to the ‘reading room’ after a meal – especially breakfast.
1. it's impossible to know what a mixed breed dog is going to be like, physically or temperament-wise, especially if you haven't met the parents. besides the fact that mixes can end up with all different random traits from each breed, every dog is also an individual. definitely ask to meet the parents if the owners have them; if they're nice dogs, it's likely that their puppies will be too, as long as you train them properly.
2. if you don't want to come home to a dog who's gone to the bathroom in the house, you need to have someone who will be home all day (and in some cases up all night) to take it out regularly, following the instructions above. even then, there will be accidents. expecting a puppy to hold it all day is like expecting a baby to hold it all day. you may be able to train the dog to go on pads/newspapers if they absolutely have to, but if you're gone all day and rely on that it's unlikely that they'll ever be properly housetrained. if you don't have the time necessary for housetraining, skip the puppy and get an older dog that's already housetrained. that's what i did and i am completely happy with my decision.
Yes, no scolding, always be patient and positive. Puppies and all pets are just trying to do what we want. It is hard for them. Pupples are just like babies, the bladder is not mature.
Training is important as the poster above said. Puppies chew also. They teethe and just like to chew. That also takes patience. Puppies and dogs love to learn tricks and obedience.
After all shots are given, they need walks, very important, as long as it is not hot outside or on the cement.
When the pup cannot be watched, a little pen is great. Keeps the pup safe and the home free of the pup going to the bathroom or chewing. I don't crate train, but I use baby gates in the kitchen or a little pen. Room to romp and play, eat and drink. Also, a bed and toys.
The pup has lots of breeds in it. Quite a mix. You can't be sure about shedding with the Pom in it.
I have had a poodle and now have a Shih Tzu. They are good for not shedding, but they have to be brushed like all dogs.
Hey Everyone, I got a little more info.. The pup was born June 4, its 50% Pomeranian, 25%, ****-zu, 25% poodle. The owners dog for pregnant so they are giving away the pups for free.
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It's going to be all little dog from an unsanctioned litter. There is extremely, extremely little that you could know about the dog based on breed percentages. Attitudes, drives, appearance and health are very heritable traits in dogs and observation of both parents will tell you a lot more about what kind of dog you are going to get than this forum.
Training is very important as well. Do the owners of the parents have a similar training background as you? If so, you are probably going to get a very similar end result with a puppy.
So from reading the above info, since my wife and I are not home 8-5 because of work, the whole take the dog outside and wait for it to go and give a treat method might not work right? However I do work from home Tuesdays and Thursdays. Would you guys suggest gating off my kitchen on each side and let it stay in there when we are not home? Thanks for all the help so far!
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