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Old 06-29-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Originally Posted by Skydive Outlaw View Post
Update on the tyrant aka my 9lb Maltese warrior.

mod snip I tested him out last week with the collar on but WITHOUT the battery in the collar.

The maniac did not bark a single time with the collar on (without a battery in it) because the moron thinks that when the collar is on, he is going to get shocked if he barks.

I should have thought of this sooner. It is absolutely amazing.

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More to follow in the continuing adventures of Sir Barney the Maltese

Sky-0
It doesn't sound like you have much respect for your dog.


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Dogs are capable of learning a great many things but when you give them carte blanche to roam free and do whatever they want without teaching them what kind of behavior is expected of themmod snip

Last edited by Sam I Am; 06-29-2012 at 12:59 PM.. Reason: orphaned
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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One major problem with all these anti-bark collars is that the dog soon learns that when the collar is removed he can bark all he wants.
some do some don't, buts lets explore this.

Using this logic you would have to keep your dog on a leash after it has learned to heel.
Once the leash is unhooked the dog can run where it wishes.
But a trained dog will stay on command.

If you use the bark collar as a training aid ininstead of expecting the collar to do the work for you you will have better results.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Atlantis
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Sir Barney. . . . .
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Well that pretty much says it all.
Answers to no one
and
has no real rules.


Instead of punishing your dog through shock collars, why don't you teach your dog the wanted behavior?
You know.... training... through positive reinforcement?


Your dog isn't going to know what is expected of him with no rules.
Usually, most people go to collars as a last resort. They've tried multiple methods to stop the barking. What it comes down to is that there are periods where we're unable to control our dogs 24/7 (i.e., away for work), and there are external forces we can't control when we're away (i.e., neighbor kid teasing or dogs on the other side of the fence). No amount of positive reinforcement can overcome the negative reinforcement that happens while you're away.

We're the 4th owner of a GSD. I'm sure his behavior was learned mostly by his 1st owner (kept him chained up outside), and slightly reinforced by his next two owners. Besides being a barker, he's an escape artist. He can easily jump/climb a 6' fence and was on his way to learning to jump an 8' fence. You could just see it in him that no amount of training would stop his desire to get to the dog on the other side to say hi (and maybe play). An electric fence became the solution. The only other solutions would be to return him to the humane society or let him jump until a person doesn't realize his friendly intentions, both ending in his demise.
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