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Old 09-30-2008, 10:25 PM
 
Location: down the shore
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I recently rescued a dog from the shelter and am considering hiring a dog obedience trainer.

My doggie is a min pin/dachshund mix with a lot of issues that range from separation anxiety to dog aggression, only shows when he is on his leash, at the doggie beach he is fine romping and playing with other dogs.

After interviewing 2 dog trainers I've discovered there are many methods of training. One will come to my house for 3 hours on the first visit and train me to use the pack leader method, while the other recommends a shock collar and I will meet him at a park once a week for six weeks.

Both are priced between $400 - $500. One is a six week training course and other is for a year but they say it will take only 4 sessions to accomplish my goals.

My question is, have you used a dog obedience training and what do you recommend is the best method. The worst method?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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NEVER SHOCK!!

Go to a class lots cheeper & better results. Look for a dog club near you.
American Kennel Club - Club Search and Directory
United Kennel Club: In Your Area (http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/WebPages/ComInYourArea - broken link)

Your local humane socity & vet could also help you find a class.
I train with love & some times treats. Some train with clicker method.
But never train with pain! Shock training is ok for the hunter cause he has no other way to correct a dog in the field. But allyou need is a good 6 ft lead & collar & love.
Training should be a bonding time for you & your dog not a fearful time.
I would never use either of the trainers you mentioned.

How old is your dog & how long have you had him?

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Old 09-30-2008, 11:05 PM
 
Location: down the shore
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Thank you, I thought that sounded very inhumane! The trainer said it was recommended by the Humane Society but I have been doing some research and in fact they don't recommend it for barking as the dog may ignore the shock and continue to bark.

I appreciate the feedback and I'll look into classes.

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NEVER SHOCK!!

Go to a class lots cheeper & better results. Look for a dog club near you.
American Kennel Club - Club Search and Directory
United Kennel Club: In Your Area (http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/WebPages/ComInYourArea - broken link)
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I added to my above post. And I am sure others will give you advise to.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:03 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I trained my chihuahuas with bribery...treats, that is! Didn't take long for them to realize that "no" is equivilant to "too bad...no treats for YOU now!" They still have their moments, (they ARE chihuahuas, after all!!!) but I have to say they're pretty friendly and well-mannered now! I read quite a bit of lit. before getting my first 2, and virtually everything I read said to praise good behavior, and only scold for bad behavior when you catch them in the act with firm, calm resolve rather than anger.

The separation anxiety is something I encountered with my 1st cat...she was tearing up the joint, literally, and biting the heck outta me when I'd get home. I got a 2nd kitty and the problem was solved...she was just lonely, and once she had a friend, she was much happier, plus I got to rescue 2 instead of 1 which made me happy...

For the barking issue, I had to give them "time out" in a separate room behind a baby gate for awhile, until they realized that once mama lets the people in, there's no threat & the barking should stop. (This was the hardest thing!!! I only let them out when they stopped barking, but at the beginning they would run right out and start barking at my guests all over again, so there was a lot of back-and-forth until they were amply socialized. (Thank goodness my friends are good sports and continued to come over regularly during this process...those high-pitched little voices can cut right through your eardrum sometimes!)
Hope this helps...good luck with your new furbaby, and congratulations!
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:24 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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I would highly recommend you look into Caesar Milan's training techniques: Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site. He has videos and training material available on his site, which allows you to go at your own pace.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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Despite the fact I know how to train a dog, I still take a class with any new dog as it is good for the socialization. Working around the other dogs helps the dogs learn to focus on you . I have always been in fun classes so enjoy going too. I try to use positive training and use either treat rewards or for Jazz a toy worked best as a reward.

I would never use a shock collar to train a dog. But I did have to resort to a citronella remote collar for Jazz as she knew what come meant but at the park if she did not want to come she would ignore me, if she looked at me she came every time, if she looked away she would not obey.With her issues with some dogs it was important she come on the first call. So I took her to the dog park let her off leash and when she had her nose down a squirrel hole I called she ignored me so I hit the button and she got a blast of the citronella and came racing to me . She seemed to think the squirrel did that so it was quite funny. I only had to do it twice and she was pretty solid with recalls. I also used it when she would race around the pool at my parents frantic, barking and trying to pull my young nephews out of the water. She was too frantic to obey and once again it took about two times of using the citronella collar to get her to stop doing it and be able to be calm as she watched them swim. Then she took to just annoying them by tossing her ball in the water at them and waiting for them to toss it out.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:53 AM
 
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NEVER punish...just don't reward. And I'm not a fan of Cesar Milan.

Try and find a trainer who uses ONLY positive methods: NO 'corrections,' no jerking on the leash, no punishment and absolutely no 'alpha roll.' You'll be amazed at what you can accomplish. My pug, a breed rumored to be 'difficult to train' earned his CGC at the age of nine months using only positive methods.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Living on 10 acres in Oklahoma
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Despite the fact I know how to train a dog, I still take a class with any new dog as it is good for the socialization. Working around the other dogs helps the dogs learn to focus on you . I have always been in fun classes so enjoy going too.
I totally agree! We do the same exact thing!!!
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:57 AM
 
Location: down the shore
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Thanks so much for all the great info. The shelter said he's a year old but I feel like he a little younger, he's very very playful and unruly. I've had him for few weeks.

He sleeps peacefully in the crate at night but when I put him in during the day to leave he cries, so I put him in the kitchen with his crate open and a gate in the doorway.

Another problem... he chases my cats, can a dog actually be trained not to chase cats?
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