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Old 12-19-2008, 11:19 AM
 
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Grab a book or look up on the internet Dr Michael W Fox, Dr marty Goldstein -- and find a HOLISTIC vet who has actually studied Nutrition. Conventional vets have NO idea that foods, INCLUDING the junk they sell in their own practices are actually the CAUSE of Inflamatory Bowel Disease, Crystals, Hypothyroidism, ETC. The kicker is The DRUGS they prescribe to tackle the illnesses caused by the FOODS can actaully be CAUSES of incontinence not to mention other side effects.
, (THIS happened with OUR own dog.) The vets would NEVER blame any foods, of course so our dog only got worse.

Dr M. Fox has a website. http://tedeboy.tripod.com/drmichaelwfox/id113.html (broken link) It's all on his website and he also writes a column for the newspapers. His info is all so easy to find which is the best partl Check for Dr M. Goldstein too. Hope you google these doctors and find a Holistic vet. Holistic vets just well may be the cure for all these common issues because they know the fundamentals of nutrition. the root of health is what we mammals eat :>)
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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subsound - i'm so sorry about your doggy. it's so hard when they get really sick, and you're running what seems like all the right tests, and you still can't find the answer. believe me, i understand, i've been there. my shih tzu developed rocky mountain spotted fever last year, and it took three months to have him correctly diagnosed.

with that said, my only suggestion is this: you really do need to see an internal medicine specialist. my regular vet, who is GREAT and very, very experienced, ran every test he could think of for my dog, and the rocky mountain spotted fever results didn't show up. it took an internal medicine specialist to find the answer, and even he didn't find it right away. he first thought b had megaesophagus, then he thought he had cancer, and finally we found out it was RMSF. (but the specialist was FAST...he went through those diagnoses and the corresponding testing and foound an answer in three days, and b had been sick for months.)

my point here is sometimes the regular vets, as fantastic and experienced as they are...well, you just NEED a specialist.

i know you're already worried about money. but sometimes you have to spend money to save money.

just my two cents.

good luck!
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Inland California Desert
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For two articles about on IBS and pets,

written by a vet with both conventional -&- Holistic vet training,

I recommend reading:


"The Wrong Way to Treat GI Inflammation"
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...treatment.aspx

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"The Hidden Inflammatory Bowel Disease That Threatens Your Pet's Well-Being"
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...e-in-pets.aspx
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Lake Country
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Have a new Vet, not a specialist but the person who supposedly has the most experiance with it in the practice. We have tried Tylosin with the last one, and are are doing a regiment of Flagyl (at least sounds correct, going to pick it up today) then add with a colon floral restorer (fun to think about), and stool firmer. There is no sign of infection, so not sure. Trying a new highly regulated diet as well, good for IBS and decreasing any lingering inflamation.

If it doesn't work, the only thing left is a referral to see a doggy oncologist.
Like some other posters, my first thought was IBD. Also like some other posters, I think you need a new vet. Any vet that didn't consider IBD with your dog's symptoms is a poor diagnostician IMO and why go back to that vet for anything else?

A colon floral restorer merely re-introduces the good gut bacteria required for normal digestion and stool formation that all the antibiotics killed off. It's usually in capsule form and often must be kept refrigerated. No worries.

Many years ago my Aussie with IBD became nearly completely symptom free and remained so for the rest of his very long life after a diet switch to Wysong Synorgon (designed for IBD and other gut conditions), Chinese herbs and acupuncture.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Lake Country
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For two articles about on IBS and pets,

written by a vet with both conventional -&- Holistic vet training,

I recommend reading:


"The Wrong Way to Treat GI Inflammation"
What Causes Inflammatory Bowel Disease?

-&-

"The Hidden Inflammatory Bowel Disease That Threatens Your Pet's Well-Being"
Inflammatory Bowel Disease May Threaten Your Pet's Well-Being
Great articles. Love HealthyPets Mercola...Dr. Becker is always right on.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Lake Country
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To locate a holistic vet: Find a Holistic Veterinarian | American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association
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Old 08-23-2015, 03:33 AM
 
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Please also consider CANINE INTESTINAL LYMPHANGECTASIA. It comes on suddenly and the only reason we caught it was our vet was somewhat familiar with it. It was too late for him, and we only gave him an extra 14 months but I am thankful for that extra time.

It presents similar to IBS but also leads to abdominal swelling and impaired protein absorption requiring prescription medications and food. It is an autoimmune disease in which the body is basically allergic to protein. The albumin levels in the blood slowly decrease, requiring transfusion of plasma and drainage of abdominal fluid collection. The fluid collection can also enter the lungs and the dog drowns internally. The fluid comes from the decreased albumin levels and plasma shifting out of the cells and depositing in other parts of the body (lungs, heart, abdomen). All other labs are normal aside from albumin levels.

Just something to consider. My vet had to consult UCLA for information on how to diagnose and treat. He stayed up at all hours of the night to save my little guy and Skype with consultants, and I was so thankful that he was dedicated to my guy as much as I was.

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