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Old 05-26-2010, 09:31 PM
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What is the best method? My puppy gives NO signs that she is about to go. She doesnt sniff, circle, NOTHING. Help
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:08 AM
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Crate training is a very good method of potty training your puppy. What age & breed is your puppy?
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:25 AM
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get the book how to house train your dog in ten days. you should take your pup out every hour or less. the more often the better. praise them when they go potty. always keep your dog close by so you can keep an eye on them when you can't keep an eye on them they should be in an x-pen or small area where they can't get to the rest of the house to mess. this is where crate training comes in handy. quite simply you can't leave the dog unsupervised or at large until they are trained or you will have accidents
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:27 AM
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I have found crate training is the fastest , always take them outside, to the same spot after being in the crate. the downside is they will spend a lot of time in the crate(this bothers humans) but puppies do a lot of sleeping so dont feel like your being mean.
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:32 AM
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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ViralMD, one of the moderators on this forum, has given these instructions a number of times on this forum. Here they are:

Below is my housetraining post. IT WORKS. But you must follow it TO THE LETTER, as must EVERYONE in the house. It's good for puppies AND grown dogs. And realize that some dogs NEVER learn to signal. Neither of my dogs does.

Housetraining your dog (puppy or adult!)

The first thing you need to do is to remember that you’re trying to reinforce a new behavior. That means that the rewards for this behavior must be WONDERFUL. NOT crap from the store. Wonderful treats are poached chicken breast/turkey breast, cheese and steak. And you don’t have to use big pieces. Tiny pieces (about 3mm cubes) are just fine! I poach a whole turkey breast every few weeks, cut it into hunks when it’s cool enough to handle, wrap them well and store them in the freezer. When I need some, I’ll thaw a hunk overnight and cut off pieces and dice finely, storing them in a plastic bag in the fridge. One hunk will last about five days. Cheese is also popular, so variety is fine.

I carry these plastic bags in my jacket pockets in the winter and in a fanny pack in warmer weather. You HAVE to have these with you, or this method won’t work, because you need to reward as soon as the dog finishes pooping or peeing. It’s not going to work if the rewards are in the house.

Remember that you’re trying to change a very ingrained behavior. Some dogs like to feel certain things under their feet when they eliminate, like fabric, or newspaper. This is called a ‘substrate preference.’ What you’re trying to do is change this substrate preference, and to do that you have to make the treats SO wonderful that the dog will change this very well-entrenched behavior. Thus the chicken, cheese, steak.

I love clicker training, but this can be done without clickers. You just need a way to ‘mark’ the behavior you want to reinforce. Use the word ‘YESSSSS!!!!’ very enthusiastically – that works for some.

You’re going to need to GO OUTSIDE WITH your dog and the dog needs to be on a leash. Yes, even in winter. If you don’t reward IMMEDIATELY after the event (when dog immediately finishes pooping or peeing) and wait inside, the dog is going to be reinforced for coming inside, not for doing its business. So, leash up your dog. STAND IN ONE PLACE. Be boring. Bring a book or magazine for yourself.

Eventually, the dog will do what you’re waiting for. The NANOSECOND that the dog is finished, HAVE A PARTY – lots of loud, high-pitched praise, treats and running around. You want to make this memorable for your dog! You’ll find that once the first event is achieved, the others will come more quickly. Keep on treating (you don’t have to throw a party except for milestones – a milestone = if he only pooped outside but now peed, too, or something equivalent to that) until he’s good and used to peeing/pooping outside. Before you know it, you have a trained dog.

Regarding accidents in the house: NO SCOLDING. Just clean them up. If you scold you’ll get the dog to think it’s bad to pee or poop and he’ll do it in places you won’t see. Until you step in it. Invest in a big bottle of Nature’s Miracle or Simple Solution and use it liberally on accidents.

To quote Patricia McConnell, author of “The Other End of the Leash” and co-author of “Way to Go” (a booklet on housetraining), “Once you face the fact that you just have take your dog out every time you turn around, give them the treat immeditely after they potty, and prevent accidents in the house… well, it usually goes so smoothly.”

With young puppies, remember they have little control of the muscle that holds the bladder closed. This is something they grow into. Just as it’s not expected that a human baby is toilet trained at six months, don’t expect much from a puppy. Patience, patience, patience!!!! The nervous system in a puppy has to mature, and it won’t have much control over the sphincter (closing muscle) at the neck of the bladder until six or seven months. The same goes for the anal sphincter. Until control is achieved, both of these muscles operate on reflex: there are stretch receptors in the bladder wall. When the bladder is full, it sends impulses to the spinal cord and these, in turn, send signals to the sphincter to open and the dog pees.

In the stomach wall, there are also stretch receptors. So when the dog eats and the stomach is stretched, the impulses again go to the spinal cord, but this time the reflex, outgoing, nerve signals are sent to the anal sphincter, so the dog defecates. This operates in people, too – which is why some people rush to the ‘reading room’ after a meal – especially breakfast.
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:42 PM
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This will work...promise.

Example for an 8 week old puppy.

1. Feed twice a day at specific times.

2. Buy an adjustable crate and adjust it to where the dog can only lay down instead of walking to another area of the crate to pee. It may seem tight, but they love the feeling of a crate as their den as long as you use a treat or a positive way to introduce them to the crate every time.

3. Put your puppy in the crate and take him out every 2 hours. Immediately when you take him out of the crate go straight outside and tell him the potty word. Ours is "do it". Once they "do it" Praise him like he did the best thing in the world while saying good "do it" during and right after "doing it."

4. All play will either be outside. Play can be inside, but only after both peeing and pooing outside and must be on a kitchen floor or some other surface to wipe up an accident.

5. Observe him when he is outside looking for a spot to "do it". Usually they start running slowly with their nose to the ground or circling. If you see this behavior in the house, scoop him up and take him outside.

6. Hang a small bell attached to a string at your back door and ring it in his face right before taking him out to pee and say "do it" while you are ringing the bell. Take him outside directly after ringing the bell. Later on, when he is about 16 weeks, instead of ringing the bell to his face, you can manually take his paw and ring the bell with his paw. The first times he goes and rings the bell himself (probably at 4 months old), open the door as fast as you can and praise him a lot. Eventually he will ring the bell for each time he needs to potty.

7. Remember that your puppy will not be fully housetrained until about 6 months old.

8. Always take a young puppy out to pee right after drinking water, right after eating, and in the morning before doing anything else.

9. If he starts a stream of pee in the house, pick him up mid pee and take him directly outside. Don't scold him....it was your fault by not observing his pee signs.

10. Take an 8 week old puppy out to pee at least twice in the middle of the night. They can usually hold it through the night by 4 or 5 months.

11. Take water away by 7:00 p.m at night or at least 3 hours before you go to bed.

12. If you are taking your puppy out to pee every 2 hours on average, then he must be in his crate unless you are playing with him outside, or he has just pooed and peed outside. At no time during this process should he have free roam of the house.

13. If my chance your puppy does pee or poo in the house, you must use an agent like natures miracle from petsmart to clean it up, otherwise they will smell residual at that area and pee or poo there again.

14. Congrats! By 6 months old they will be ringing the bell to let you know he/she has to potty and time in the crate will be minimal except for at night or when you leave the house. By 8 or 9 months they will be fully trusted.

15. The key is to prevent any accidents in the house and with the above regimen you will win. The above seems like a lot, but you have to remind yourself that you will only be doing this for a maximum of 4 months compared to the lifetime of the dog and 4 months will go by very fast with a new puppy.
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:24 AM
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An 8 week old puppy should eat more than twice a day. Just FYI.

Hey Mods - can we make this a sticky? The crate training that ViralMD posted is the best I've ever seen.
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Old 06-01-2010, 10:32 PM
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Some really important aspects of training have to do with the dog owner.

Be consistent and vigilant about it constantly! That is a key point. If you let them have slip ups because you're not paying attention it will take you six times as long to train them if you ever do get them trained that way.

Be patient! Don't EVER yell at the pup because he/she will then start hiding from you when they are going to go.

Be prepared beforehand knowing that it's going to take a lot of self discipline and responsibility along with a lot of time on your part. But, if you are willing to accept and follow through on those things you'll save yourself and your sanity forever after by having a dog who never has accidents. And, having a well trained dog is well worth a few month's non-stop effort in the beginning of your relationship with your doggie in the long run.

And, as an aside......we tried adding the food reward system with our most recent pup when we were training her. So, the little two and a half pound smartie pants started doing dime size spots on her wee pad every 20 minutes or so and then coming over to stare at us so we'd give her her yummy. Some of these furry ones are smarter than we are, I think!
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by htlong View Post
I have found crate training is the fastest , always take them outside, to the same spot after being in the crate. the downside is they will spend a lot of time in the crate(this bothers humans) but puppies do a lot of sleeping so dont feel like your being mean.

Total agreement here. Consistency is key. Eventually the repetition will pay off, and the dog will expect to be taken out whenever the crate is opened. Always praise the pup as well. Most dogs want to please their masters, and thrive on that approval. Many people think that crate training is cruel...it isn't. In addition, dogs enjoy a small area to curl up tight and relax. The crate will become that place.
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