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Typical response of someone who's frustration stems from the realization that they are way out of their league and there is nothing they can do about it.
Actually, Goldman Sachs caused the economic crisis in Greece by shorting Greek bonds, then forced austerity measures through the IMF, and shorted Greek bonds again causing 70% unemployment in some cities and near economic collapse.
There's rioting in the streets because the Greeks are better informed than typical Amercans and know they've been ripped off by the banksters.
Actually Greece caused the economic crisis in Greece by borrowing waaaay too much money and not being able to have a hope of paying it back due to the fact that they don't actually produce anything.
I was thinking, maybe teachertype is a typing teacher?
Typical childish response of someone whose limited understanding of economic issues only allows for regurgitating right wing talking points. People will continue to travel abroad for medical care because they can get a much higher quality of care at a more reasonable cost, not to mention a little compassion for the patient as added value.
Most jobs will not have health benefits in future. Why should they most jobs can be done as temps part time or contractors. Over the next 20 years 20 to 30% of the jobs here today will be sent overseas. A million people a year lose their health benefits. These are small business for the most part who can no longer afford the cost. Most people work for small business it a major issue. The feds are never going to be able to cover their debts for medicaid and medicare. A major reason for US business sending jobs overseas is medical cost. It cost 5 to 7k to cover a worker in the US. A engineer in China will cost you 7 to 10k. This is even before you start talking about wages. On medical cost alone it makes sense to send jobs overseas. Medical cost go up 8 to 10% a year it never ends. So the health care system in the US will fail. It is really only a matter of when.
Typical childish response of someone whose limited understanding of economic issues only allows for regurgitating right wing talking points. People will continue to travel abroad for medical care because they can get a much higher quality of care at a more reasonable cost, not to mention a little compassion for the patient as added value.
I dont know why you thought my response was childish. I seriously thought that is what your name meant. I figured you were obviously not qualified to teach anything else, except maybe, gym class. On second thought, "teachertype" for a typing teacher is a little too clever for you to have thought up.
Now, how are you going to fool people into thinking I am the one with a "limited understanding of economic issues"? Do you know how to do hypnosis over the internet? Do you think people are going to just read this one post of yours and forget the rest of the thread? All too often, people mistakenly believe that everyone else is like themselves. In this case, you are making the false assumption that everyone else is just as simple as you.
I have not regurgitated one single talking point. Maybe you should go back and read the thread again. The only one regurgitating talking points is you. Go watch another Michael Moore movie so you can keep your material fresh.
I sincerely hope people continue going abroad for medical care if that is what they wish. It is no skin off my nose. If people decide they dont need my services, I will adapt and provide a service that they do need. Unlike most teachers, I am qualified to do other things. Unlike teachers, I dont HAVE to fight to get the government to raise taxes to pay me more. I dont want the taxpayer to be held hostage to get my salary. I can think of ways to make people WANT to pay me more to retain my services as opposed to the competition. In a free market, if enough people decide to use my overseas competition, and I cant make the type of living I desire, I will do something else where I can. The future is not scary to me. I welcome new challenges. I am entrepreneurial, like America. I am not like you, totally dependent on the government, and the tax payer's money. I can see why you guys fight tooth and nail with your unions. It's because you are not qualified to do anything else. You know what they say about "Those who cant DO..."
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Veterans get their health care from the government? Then wouldn't that be socialized medicine and socialism?
Veterans who are supposed to get their health care from the government often head south of the border-
it's either die waiting on the government or go take care of it yourself....but since many veterans are disabled and can't work a high paying job and get health insurance...they are UNinsured. So it's just cheaper to go to Mexico.
And just now....I am showing symptoms of diabetes- even the blurred vision which is now concerning me to the point I want to deal with the VA healthcare system. So what is a veteran to do? Call them for an appointment, right?
hahahha. I can't get an appointment because I am not assigned a 'general' doctor. I go for specialized care at certain clinics but have no 'family doctor' there. They say I must attend a 2 hour orientation before I can even be assigned a doctor....let alone see one.
And when are these orientations? Fridays at noon. How horrible! Why can't it be more flexible? So, my orientation is October 8th....yep 2 months away (from when I made the appointment).
So on October 8th will I see a doctor- NO. I must be put in the system and then assigned a doctor. THEN they have to have an opening....and not just a 20/30 minute opening...NO...they have to have a 1- 1/2 hour opening for a NEW patient exam.
Geesh! I can go to my health department or any private doctor and just pay for a blood test to see if it is diabetes or not. And there is no wait.
But with the government...it's been months and could take a year ....just to get a blood test.
The VA should be disbanded and ALL disabled vets given the SAME health insurance as our President....or at least Congress!
It's bizarre that you vilify Greece as socialistic, in other words not a democracy. Greece is the cradle of western civilization and often attributed as being the first democracy.
We get the word 'democracy' from the Greek words 'demos' (people)and 'kratos' (power). People power, not corporate power. Democracy is power to the people.
Power to the people, not power to health insurance profiteers, big pharma, and a bloated corporate criminal class that bribes the Oval Office, Congress and Senate into protecting their unbridled profits by preventing the American people from having a decent single payer national health plan.
Your commie baiting and right wing talking points aren't getting over.
Greece is a socialistic bloated country with a dominate public sector sucking the life out of the private sector via corruption. It's a country going down the tubes fast.
Might be great about stuff that happened 2500 years ago, but this is now.
Do your research on Greece, the answers are out there. Actually ask people about trying to do business over there and see what answers you get.
Most jobs will not have health benefits in future. Why should they most jobs can be done as temps part time or contractors. Over the next 20 years 20 to 30% of the jobs here today will be sent overseas. A million people a year lose their health benefits. These are small business for the most part who can no longer afford the cost. Most people work for small business it a major issue. The feds are never going to be able to cover their debts for medicaid and medicare. A major reason for US business sending jobs overseas is medical cost. It cost 5 to 7k to cover a worker in the US. A engineer in China will cost you 7 to 10k. This is even before you start talking about wages. On medical cost alone it makes sense to send jobs overseas. Medical cost go up 8 to 10% a year it never ends. So the health care system in the US will fail. It is really only a matter of when.
I agree with the points you make above. This is why radical health care reform as a political issue will not go away anytime soon. Americans might be against "socialized" medicine in theory, but when it is their pocket book or their family who are getting hurt then they will become "medical socialists" real quick.
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