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Old 11-13-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Okay, we've covered the problem in depth and very intelligently, is it appropriate to inquire if any of us have a solution?

What can be done for job creation? Is it a lost cause? Sling me some hope, C-D'ers.
Realistically, we are now in a very different situation than any time since the great depression. The fundamentals of the economy have been changing for decades, but the changes have been flying below the radar of most people.
The truth is, we can not return to were we were.
We are in a much more competitive labor market, and not everyone will survive.
We will all be subject to the laws of survival of the fittest.
The people who feel they are entitled to employment, will be replaced by the people who understand that they have to continually improve both their skills and their production on a continuous basis.
All the advantage is in the hands of the employers.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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I think what the other poster said above is the reality. Many of us feel the carpet's been pulled from under us and we're having trouble getting footing on the shifting ground.

The Times They Are a-Changing--and not for the better.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:25 PM
 
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If you are middle class office drone, just get used to the idea that you are now superfluous. Problem solved.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Don't know if I'm considered a boomer, but I'm going to keep working until I can't--and then it will all be over for me. Work is the purpose to living.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Don't know if I'm considered a boomer, but I'm going to keep working until I can't--and then it will all be over for me. Work is the purpose to living.
What is your job or profession?
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:20 AM
 
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It must be something like flamenco dancer or anti-elephant poaching patrol to say something like that.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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Escort Rider wrote:
There is nothing voluntary about paying taxes, and why should there be? Why should you get a free ride and let me pay for your police and fire protection, your public library, paving the streets for you to drive on, picking up your trash, and a ton of other things. Your thinking seems to be very confused.
See this article on the IRS webpage: Voluntary Compliance (http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0%2C%2Cid=172790%2C00.html - broken link)

I never said anything about a free ride. Your mind is running wild and making things up. During the past 40 years, I might have paid more in taxes than you have, but I'm not gonna berate you for the possibility that you payed less than me.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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People have "enslaved" themselves (if you insist on the term) by their own stupidity; the government has not enslaved them.
Stupidity is a result of lack of education and role models. This is a serious problem and getting worse. I wonder if kids in h.s. who have no idea how their parents manage money, and forget how to do manual math are going to understand causal relationships in earning spending and saving.

Perhaps a better word for your statement would be "ignorance."

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Old 11-15-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Do you mean that you knew of?
Yep. And across the board, too, from local trash collectors to waiters to dept. store clerks to sales and higher levels. Everyone knew everyone in those days (hard to believe, right?) in the neighborhoods and we heard about it when some family's single wage earner died, and people pitched in to help out that family (another "fond" memory). This was a working class city. The only "survival centers" were in the city's north end for the poor, where middle class folks (even lower middle class) did not venture. There were no food stamps or rent/mortgage assistance for middle class. Security was so prevalent that my uncle, who told off his boss one day and quit, was re-hired when he went back hat in hand, asking for his old job back. They took him, cuz _________ "had a family." Try to imagine that today.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Yep. And across the board, too, from local trash collectors to waiters to dept. store clerks to sales and higher levels. Everyone knew everyone in those days (hard to believe, right?) in the neighborhoods and we heard about it when some family's single wage earner died, and people pitched in to help out that family (another "fond" memory). This was a working class city. The only "survival centers" were in the city's north end for the poor, where middle class folks (even lower middle class) did not venture. There were no food stamps or rent/mortgage assistance for middle class. Security was so prevalent that my uncle, who told off his boss one day and quit, was re-hired when he went back hat in hand, asking for his old job back. They took him, cuz _________ "had a family." Try to imagine that today.
Yes, the world was all good and wholesome in the past, so long as you ignore the Great Depression, WW2, the 8 recessions that occurred between 1940~1980, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, etc etc.
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