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Old 09-24-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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You can build all the windmills you want, but it won't solve your dependence on foreign oil.
Not what the math says. US could still quit Oil and come out ahead. Just about like we quit Horses some 100 or so years ago. Lost the horse poop, and got Cleaner, Faster, Better. Same with Oil, now. Most Non-Oil choices are Cleaner, Faster, Better.

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Now, if you're willing to give up your life-style and go back to something like in the mid-1970s, then you wouldn't need foreign oil.
Pretty heavy per-person use of Oil, even back then. More like we would have to Go Forward (geeesssh, what a freakin' concept) towards Renewable Based Electric sources.

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However, something tells me you lack the intestinal fortitude and courage to simply just walk away from all the pharmaceutical drugs that have come on the market since 1994 courtesy of foreign imported light crude oil.
Not that critical, and besides we love to import products directly, in case you did not notice.

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Also something tells me you wouldn't care for the rather dull color of your clothing with all that foreign imported light oil used in the dyes to get all of those rich luxuriant colors (and sorry but windmills just don't provide any petro-chemical stocks).
Again, the cloth, or more likely the entire clothing products are imported.

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And how would you eat? I mean if you can't microwave something then you'd have to actually cook real food, instead of the foreign imported light oil laden goo you call food that's sitting in the frozen food section.

The only reason you eat that stuff is because of the artificial colorings and artificial flavorings and artificial preservatives all made from foreign imported light oil, like Bonny Light (Nigeria), Arabian Light (Saudi Arabia) and of course the dreaded Tia Juana Light (from those bastards in Venezuela).
So we would eat better with locally produced Non-Oil based and Non-Oil produced Foods?

Is there a downside to this? Bring it.

But over-all you are correct that the Top End Oil Junkies/Pushers will destroy US before they let US quit their Oil-Crack.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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Basically there are many projects to sue such as sand tars from Canada being doen now. That and we will see more usage of natural gas with mnay LNG ports being built now. That si because alterntives can not compete in the world with its high cost. If the cost is too high as it is with alternatives then they will always be a minor part until near the end of crude.We can even convert coal at a much cheaper rate really.Last I saw not one alternative porduced 1% of our energy needs yet and the closest was wood.That is not even considering the other 19000 products we need to replace made from crude.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:48 PM
 
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China is now buying up the world one piece at a time while the rest of the world pays the bills.

Fears of Chinese land grab as Beijing's billions buy up resources - Asia, World - The Independent
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