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Old 12-11-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Old 12-11-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Don't bother trying to call to find out exactly why they are charging what they are charging because the people answering the phones don't know either. I tried once.
My plan is to go wireless next year as they now offer mobile broadband.
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Old 12-11-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Don't bother trying to call to find out exactly why they are charging what they are charging because the people answering the phones don't know either. I tried once.
My plan is to go wireless next year as they now offer mobile broadband.
Boy, i wish I could go wireless but cell service doesn't offer features a hardwire land line does that we need for my wife's business. Damn!
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I don't see what the problem is. AT&T charges me 12.98 a month for phone service, and 5.30 for a federal subscriber line charge. That comes to 18.28 to have a hot phone jack in my house that I can plug my phone into. Whether they invoice that on one line or two makes no difference to me. 18.28 how much they need to charge (more or less) to be competitive with other service providers.

Do you think that the actual market price for phone service is 12.98 and a fat man smoking a cigar in a corner office is raking in all those 5.30 surcharges and buying his wife fur coats with them?
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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One word: VoIP. My phone bill is about 10 bucks a month and it comes with a mind-boggling set of features. And since my provider is Canadian, I don't have to pay all the silly taxes and subscriber line charges and the like.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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One word: VoIP. My phone bill is about 10 bucks a month and it comes with a mind-boggling set of features. And since my provider is Canadian, I don't have to pay all the silly taxes and subscriber line charges and the like.
This is a thread about land line phones, relevant to people who need to have land line phones. For many people, the mind-boggling set of features associated with VoIP renders that alternative useless or impractical.
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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This is a thread about land line phones, relevant to people who need to have land line phones. For many people, the mind-boggling set of features associated with VoIP renders that alternative useless or impractical.
Oh, sorry Thread Cop. I didn't know we weren't allowed to suggest alternatives to redress the OP's complaints, but I'm sure he'll be exceedingly grateful for your efforts to stop people from doing so.

VoIP is the functional equivalent to land-line service. The only difference is the delivery method. And how the hell does having a lot of features make it useless or impractical? If you don't want to use them, don't.
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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VoIP is the functional equivalent to land-line service. The only difference is the delivery method. And how the hell does having a lot of features make it useless or impractical? .
For users who for any reason do not or cannot have the "delivery method", connected to a highly reliable high speed ISP 24/7, VoIP has a very conspicuous feature that makes it useless or impractical.

And, a telephone that requires the auxiliary purchase of a working computer or at least a high-speed ISP service contract is a tad more expensive than a simple land line. Everybody here already knows about the various alternatives to land lines. Nearly half of all households with income under $40K still do not have home internete access (it was 56% in 2008, but I adjusted for rapid change), and this is the demographic to which saving a few bucks a month on phone service would be relevant. For them, VoIP is NoIP, not an option.

If you want to suggest alternatives, try going to a Parenting forum topic and helpfully suggest "don't have kids", or to the Automotive forum and suggest "don't drive". This thread is about an issue related to land line usage, and it is not helpful to say "don't use a landline".

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Old 12-12-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Mtns of Waynesville,NC & Nokomis, FL
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I don't see what the problem is. AT&T charges me 12.98 a month for phone service, and 5.30 for a federal subscriber line charge. That comes to 18.28 to have a hot phone jack in my house that I can plug my phone into. Whether they invoice that on one line or two makes no difference to me. 18.28 how much they need to charge (more or less) to be competitive with other service providers.

Do you think that the actual market price for phone service is 12.98 and a fat man smoking a cigar in a corner office is raking in all those 5.30 surcharges and buying his wife fur coats with them?
I don't disagree, and funny last paragraph, but our AT&T, with very basic, very local area 'service' is about $20/month plus fees, before we make any calls. Then, the escalation and compounding begin.
I think the OP has a point, and we have very little option at our Mtn house.
GL, mD
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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I don't see what the problem is. AT&T charges me 12.98 a month for phone service, and 5.30 for a federal subscriber line charge. That comes to 18.28 to have a hot phone jack in my house that I can plug my phone into. Whether they invoice that on one line or two makes no difference to me. 18.28 how much they need to charge (more or less) to be competitive with other service providers.

Do you think that the actual market price for phone service is 12.98 and a fat man smoking a cigar in a corner office is raking in all those 5.30 surcharges and buying his wife fur coats with them?

When you multiply that by the thousands that are paying these ridiculous fees, of course they are raking it in all while laughing at the consumer. AT&T is a POS and a racket. With new services coming out more and more, their days are numbered and that is a beautiful thing.
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