Outsourcing Jobs (small business, taxes, wages, fees)
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Can you put a date on when this transition occurred? Please be specific about the events leading to this transition.
I am pretty certain the part about "belligerent nationalism and racism" has been around quite a while. Did "dictatorial control" coincident with the Patriot Act?
Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. 2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Aparently you do not understand the definition....
Fascism (pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascists seek to organize a country according to a particular nationalist strand of corporatist values and perspectives,
As an economic system, fascism is SOCIALISM with a capitalist veneer. Under fascism, the state, through official CARTELS, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture.
THe company is under pressure to make money for it's stock-holders.
If the Staff of the company do not do the best they can in this area they are removed and others take their place.
SO, when the Government creates onerous regulations, restrictions, and taxes....
The company has to first do right by it's shareholders.
By outsourcing they lower overhead, and increase profits, doing better for the investor.... they help 401K's etc....
Thanks for making it quite clear that outsourcing only benefits the few, and not the majority of Americans. Those on Wall Street specifically.
Since, as you put it, only have a responsibility to their shareholders, CEO's etc, even if it means working with other countries to the detriment of Americans, then I wonder if you would have a problem if I gave support and money to countries like Iran, North Korea etc if there was a benefit in it for me?
Why should I support anything American in this global system where money talks? We need to do away with the military also, since the only benefit it provides is for trades and international commerce stability and security, which the direct beneficiaries are these investment banks and mega corps.
Beef up the national guard for our borders only. Let business's pay for their pursuits in other countries with their own money and their sons and daughters, not my fellow Americans, of which they are not, but Globalists.
Also, there are many examples of companies outsourcing for more profits when they were doing quite well here as well.
I can provide sources to back up this claim if needed.
When comparing two products from two different era's, they should be similar in nature, mass produced as today, and range from the bottom to the top of the line as those in 1970 were.
Looking at todays prices from the bottom end to the top end of tv's available as then.
Looking at today's prices, I don't see much difference between then and now, except someone is pocketing the difference and it isn't the consumer.
Also, the life expectancy of the product should be taken into account then and now.
If you shell out a $1000 dollars for a fridge now, and it dies in 2 years due to crappy quality and need to buy another, versus the older more reliable fridges, did you really save money?
Let me get this straight, despite the fact that corporations are making obscene profits at the expense of American jobs, and that they are now paying a smaller percentage of the total tax burden than any time in history, we should lower their taxes even more, and put more of the tax burden on the working people so that the rich can have even more and then they will take pity on us and create some jobs here?
I have a better idea, how about a 25% tariff on all good produced overseas, a higher corporate tax, and a 60% income tax on all incomes over 1 million a year. That would return us to a situation more like the 60's when we had an extremely strong economy, and employment. The working people then also had more of their paychecks to spend on consumables
If you had taken a basic economic class you would know that fewer taxes would leave companies with MORE assets to use for infrastructure expansion, product development, and for the hiring of employees. ALL OF WHICH would generate more taxable revenue.
This is the same logic behind ROTH IRA's.
It WORKS.
I don't recall the exact numbers, but the top 5 or 10% pay IIRC over 40% of the tax burden...
Disproportionate much?
In the 60's a million was ALOT... inflation has cost us 97% of the USD's purchasing power since the early 1900's (Before 1910, dates arn't forte)
And, it's not as simple as you make it seem. that's like saying because I use am umbrella when it's raining that umbrellas cause rainstorms.
Additionally excessive tariffs have historically caused tariff wars, which simply increase inflation, and, much like minimum wage the 'poorer people' never have their wages/assets appreciate as rapidly so it is THEM who are most hurt.
Thanks for making it quite clear that outsourcing only benefits the few, and not the majority of Americans. Those on Wall Street specifically.
Since, as you put it, only have a responsibility to their shareholders, CEO's etc, even if it means working with other countries to the detriment of Americans, then I wonder if you would have a problem if I gave support and money to countries like Iran, North Korea etc if there was a benefit in it for me?
Why should I support anything American in this global system where money talks? We need to do away with the military also, since the only benefit it provides is for trades and international commerce stability and security, which the direct beneficiaries are these investment banks and mega corps.
Beef up the national guard for our borders only. Let business's pay for their pursuits in other countries with their own money and their sons and daughters, not my fellow Americans, of which they are not, but Globalists.
Also, there are many examples of companies outsourcing for more profits when they were doing quite well here as well.
I can provide sources to back up this claim if needed.
LOL: "Only Shareholders"?
Funny... I recollect MANY people making money in the stock market and spending it...
As to 'working with countries to the detriment of Americans' The Gov't regulates that... If you don't like the way it's done... Vote the Political
animals out of office (Something I personally am VERY much for)
Doyou like Coffee? TO drive a car? Plastics? Medicines? etc?
If so, Then we haveto have a international, worldwide economy.
And while I am against the way the military is used (Deployed more by the liberal presidents as ether police, or distractions from the 'hankey panky' they commit) A military force is necessary not only if you enjoy these things, but if you do not wish to be enslaved or dead.
If you don't believe me, don't resist and let me beat you up and take your lunch money.
Same thing, smaller scale.
But thank you for showing us the limits of your knowledge and where you stand.
(A classic 'crust defense' as you advocate for the borders is tactically unsound as you allow your enemy to move freely and amass against you, and then exploit a observed weak point in your one and only line of defense.)
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Also, there are many examples of companies outsourcing for more profits when they were doing quite well here as well.
What is 'plenty of money'? DO you make 'plenty of money' and therefore do not need a raise... EVER?
As I said, and is blindingly obvious: If the Employees of the shareholders (CEO etc) do NOT optimise their bosses (the shareholders... ie AMERICANS) RIO (Return on Investment) they will find themselves out of a job... and someone else doing it.
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OUTSOURCE USA EDUCATION, when we start getting a workforce educated on par with our global competitors (in about 20 yrs). Maybe countries will outsource their jobs to the US.
Funny... I recollect MANY people making money in the stock market and spending it...
As to 'working with countries to the detriment of Americans' The Gov't regulates that... If you don't like the way it's done... Vote the Political
animals out of office (Something I personally am VERY much for)
Doyou like Coffee? TO drive a car? Plastics? Medicines? etc?
If so, Then we haveto have a international, worldwide economy.
And while I am against the way the military is used (Deployed more by the liberal presidents as ether police, or distractions from the 'hankey panky' they commit) A military force is necessary not only if you enjoy these things, but if you do not wish to be enslaved or dead.
If you don't believe me, don't resist and let me beat you up and take your lunch money.
Same thing, smaller scale.
But thank you for showing us the limits of your knowledge and where you stand.
(A classic 'crust defense' as you advocate for the borders is tactically unsound as you allow your enemy to move freely and amass against you, and then exploit a observed weak point in your one and only line of defense.)
What is 'plenty of money'? DO you make 'plenty of money' and therefore do not need a raise... EVER?
As I said, and is blindingly obvious: If the Employees of the shareholders (CEO etc) do NOT optimise their bosses (the shareholders... ie AMERICANS) RIO (Return on Investment) they will find themselves out of a job... and someone else doing it.
Funny, no one bitched with stock prices were up!
Good post. Many people aren't bright. Their knowledge is pretty limited to complex affairs as free markets and global trade, something which was preached by none but the same folks these complainers voted into office
Funny... I recollect MANY people making money in the stock market and spending it...
As to 'working with countries to the detriment of Americans' The Gov't regulates that... If you don't like the way it's done... Vote the Political
animals out of office (Something I personally am VERY much for)
When you have corporations and investment banks funding both sides of the equation, there really is no true vote for the common person in this country.
The majority were against NAFTA, but that did not stop them
The majority were against the bailouts, but that did not stop them
The majority were against the war in Iraq, but that did not stop them
The majority are against raising the debt ceiling, and that won't stop them either.
It does not matter what the common people in this country want, but what the mega corps and captains of industry and banking want.
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Doyou like Coffee? TO drive a car? Plastics? Medicines? etc?
If so, Then we haveto have a international, worldwide economy.
And while I am against the way the military is used (Deployed more by the liberal presidents as ether police, or distractions from the 'hankey panky' they commit) A military force is necessary not only if you enjoy these things, but if you do not wish to be enslaved or dead.
Enslaved or dead? Looks like the only one to fear is our military going in countries all over the world. If I was in another country, it would be the US I would be afraid of. Have you ever taken a look at how others view our military around the world.
Tell me, what dangers does North Korea pose to us? Absolutely none.
Oh thats right, they pose a danger to one of our "trading partners" South Korea.
We need to get a central bank and a military base in North Korea asap.
If your all for the government using the military for our general well being and protection, then I would also like to see something formed to protect us from the CEO's and Captain's of Industry outsourcing jobs to our detriment.
If you don't believe me, don't resist and let me beat you up and take your lunch money.
Same thing, smaller scale.
Yep, thats why we need protection in our country as well against these thieves and crooks.
The difference is you want to have a free hand in doing as you please in countries throughout the world, and here in this country as well.
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As I said, and is blindingly obvious: If the Employees of the shareholders (CEO etc) do NOT optimise their bosses (the shareholders... ie AMERICANS) RIO (Return on Investment) they will find themselves out of a job... and someone else doing it.
Funny, no one bitched with stock prices were up!
And when they do it at the expense of everyone else, then we need to enact changes to put a stop to this. This policy does benefit the country as a whole and is simply cannibalizing the workers for greater profits.
You musta missed the part about the excessive government taxation and regulations HARMING the companies and driving them overseas....
Not surprising.
Yea, right. In 2008 ExxonMobile paid no federal income tax on 311 billion in sales,
2009 GE, 157 billion in sales - no federal income tax paid
Bank of America 129 billion in sales, no income tax
the list goes on and on. The GAO estimates that 55% of all American businesses pay no income tax.
When you have corporations and investment banks funding both sides of the equation, there really is no true vote for the common person in this country.
The majority were against NAFTA, but that did not stop them
The majority were against the bailouts, but that did not stop them
The majority were against the war in Iraq, but that did not stop them
The majority are against raising the debt ceiling, and that won't stop them either.
It does not matter what the common people in this country want, but what the mega corps and captains of industry and banking want.
Agreed (Excepting the majority bit)... THe MAJORITY of Americans fell asleep watching Monday night football, and don'd care what happens so long as the beer holds out.
In Argentina they did a revolution with nothing but breadpans.... and the overwhelming force of the populace.
Until Americans wake up... the status quo will continue.
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Enslaved or dead? Looks like the only one to fear is our military going in countries all over the world.
Why would we worry about that?
Even if we were... it's the civilians sending them... no matter what the liberals say.
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If I was in another country, it would be the US I would be afraid of.
But your not. (I assume)
And it's a GOOD THING that one's enemies fear them. And those who are considering it also fear you.
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Have you ever taken a look at how others view our military around the world.
Yea, I've even served with some of them.
Some countries love us, some of them hate us, and some of them want to use us for ether force, power, or money.
Same as anything.
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Tell me, what dangers does North Korea pose to us? Absolutely none.
Oh thats right, they pose a danger to one of our "trading partners" South Korea.
We need to get a central bank and a military base in North Korea asap.
Your DEAD WRONG on this one.
North Korea is one of the few countries which actually scare me and I believe might attack us. As you stated, most countries fear our might.
North Korea is run by a madman, and absolute power tends to warp people's brain. Additionally it is highly likely that he has weapons ether from Russia, china, or elsewhere. I can see him 'wanting to take the world with him' when he dies.'
I'll breath a sigh of relief when that's over.
-Now, if you want to apply this to a different country, I would more thna likely agree with you.
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If your all for the government using the military for our general well being and protection, then I would also like to see something formed to protect us from the CEO's and Captain's of Industry outsourcing jobs to our detriment.
Yep, thats why we need protection in our country as well against these thieves and crooks.
Not the job of the military.
Start a grassroots movement and vote the Bums out. I don't agree with all the tennants of the Tea Party movement, but that's what they are trying to do.
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The difference is you want to have a free hand in doing as you please in countries throughout the world, and here in this country as well.
That's funny, I don't recall saying anything of the sort!
What I AM saying, is that certain people are in certain positions due to outside forces.
It's taken us many years to get here, healthy change is not going to happen overnight.
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And when they do it at the expense of everyone else, then we need to enact changes to put a stop to this. This policy does benefit the country as a whole and is simply cannibalizing the workers for greater profits.
While you have SOME valid points, you miss the mark on others.
Do you pay a kid to cut the grass?
(For this example lets just say you pay a kid $50 to do it)
Should you pay ME $200 to do it simply because it will help me more?
If another kid comes up and offers to do the same job for $20...
Should you keep paying 'too much'?
Same differences, different scale.
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This needs to stop one way or the other.
I agree, I just say 'The other'
Just like slavery. Slavery was WRONG, but if they had waited another 10 or so years it would have died without what was it? 5% of the US population dying...
It was a social-economic failure.
(Not that the war of northern aggression was about slavery anyway)
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