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Old 02-15-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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"We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts"

Bill Moyers: America Can't Deal With Reality -- We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts | World | AlterNet

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Old 02-16-2011, 03:06 AM
 
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"We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts"

Bill Moyers: America Can't Deal With Reality -- We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts | World | AlterNet

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This thread walks that razors edge between politics and the mindset of the American public. Since the mindset governs the whole topic it is important to read all of the piece to understand any of it's message.

Other than the stuff about the 9/11 "Truthers" and President Johnson, all of the stuff he talks about is against conservatives.

Typical lopsided examples from a liberal press member.

Americans don't deal with reality. Indeed, he is right about that. But I suspect Bill Moyers doesn't include himself in that category, even though he most definitely should.
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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"We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts"

Bill Moyers: America Can't Deal With Reality -- We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts | World | AlterNet

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This thread walks that razors edge between politics and the mindset of the American public. Since the mindset governs the whole topic it is important to read all of the piece to understand any of it's message.
Good article!

I wonder how many people realize our current "fantasy world" existence is by design. It is literally the same strategy as Ancient Rome used with their people; the spectacles put on in places like the Coliseum all over the old Roman empire as well as passing out the free grain and bread in Rome. Keep the masses distracted/dependant on you and it's easier to control them.

Eventually, they will prefer to remain distracted...even DEMAND it. Then you can satisfy your desires for power, control and ape-ish chest-pounding dominance in the real world with minimal competition.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Good article!

I wonder how many people realize our current "fantasy world" existence is by design. It is literally the same strategy as Ancient Rome used with their people; the spectacles put on in places like the Coliseum all over the old Roman empire as well as passing out the free grain and bread in Rome. Keep the masses distracted/dependant on you and it's easier to control them.

Eventually, they will prefer to remain distracted...even DEMAND it. Then you can satisfy your desires for power, control and ape-ish chest-pounding dominance in the real world with minimal competition.
Americans are used to being distracted, we have very short attention spans (now Egypt is old news already, and Katrina and Haiti had a short-lived interest). We love a crisis, we plaster ourselves to the TV when one occurs. Before long we tire of it and get back to business as usual--sitcoms, shopping, eating, etc. And, some things that are really possible on the horizon are just too painful to contemplate.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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The problem is that we all suffer from a form of mental illness. We all allow our personal opinions and hopes to cloud our cognitive functions.
We tend to filter data according to what we want to hear, and what will support our pre determined opinions of what is going to happen in the future.
We want to believe the future is bright, so we believe the Politicians, Stock Brokers, corporate owned News Media, and Federal Reserve who lie to us on average 93% of the time.
We are willing to accept their schemes and plans which are designed to enrichen themselves at our expense.
We want to believe they are smarter than us, and that they are working in our best interests.
It really does not matter how many times they lie to us, and that things continue to deteriorate, we believe what we want to believe.
We have become lazy, stupid, and complacent as a people, and the day is coming when we will have to pay the price for our shortcomings.
We have squandered our inheritance like spoiled rich children, unwilling, and unable to do what is needed to preserve our good fortune for future generations.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What it boils down to is dealing with reality.
Is the economy recovering ? Will we go back to the good times of 2006 ? Or is this the new face of America ?

Who really knows. The confidence factor plays a big part in the headlines you read.
And you can see that sentiment sways from month to month as the reports come out.

The health of the nation is not good. We are three years into this recession (I call depressioon).
I don't think we will return to our glory days as top dog but I also don't think we'll turn into a third world nation.

When handed lemons....make lemonade. Adjust and adapt. Keep little debt, an emergency fund and live within your means. Life is what you make it and you only get one chance.
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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Other than the stuff about the 9/11 "Truthers" and President Johnson, all of the stuff he talks about is against conservatives.

Typical lopsided examples from a liberal press member.

Americans don't deal with reality. Indeed, he is right about that. But I suspect Bill Moyers doesn't include himself in that category, even though he most definitely should.
That is Moyers whose truth can be much different than others. Just another opinion.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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Americans are used to being distracted, we have very short attention spans
Replace "Americans" with "humans" and you've got a reasonable statement.
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Old 02-25-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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The problem is that we all suffer from a form of mental illness. We all allow our personal opinions and hopes to cloud our cognitive functions.
We tend to filter data according to what we want to hear, and what will support our pre determined opinions of what is going to happen in the future.
We want to believe the future is bright, so we believe the Politicians, Stock Brokers, corporate owned News Media, and Federal Reserve who lie to us on average 93% of the time.
We are willing to accept their schemes and plans which are designed to enrichen themselves at our expense.
We want to believe they are smarter than us, and that they are working in our best interests.
It really does not matter how many times they lie to us, and that things continue to deteriorate, we believe what we want to believe.
We have become lazy, stupid, and complacent as a people, and the day is coming when we will have to pay the price for our shortcomings.
We have squandered our inheritance like spoiled rich children, unwilling, and unable to do what is needed to preserve our good fortune for future generations.
Yes, distractions from focusing on reality (i.e., what is really happening) may be a form of ADD. And we do definitely hear what we want to hear. I have a smart nephew who was "last hired" and you'd think he'd have a little humility and concern over what might happen, but no, he's on a roll with spending and gung-ho on American recovery, oblivious to the reality of a global marketplace, global economy. He doesn't think that anything happening anywhere else in the world affects us. Some who have good positions in life can't afford to hear anything that is possible and based in reality, it would burst their bubble. On the other hand there are those with good positions who are being very, very careful and watching global news with great interest.
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