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Old 03-06-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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This is not just doom & gloom it is what is happening today...........

"Already, ABC News is reporting that regular unleaded gasoline is going for $5.29 a gallon at one gas station in Orlando, Florida."

"But global food prices are rising. According to the United Nations, the global price of food has risen for 8 consecutive months. Last month, the global price of food set a brand new all-time record high. Many are starting to fear that we could actually be in the early stages of a major global food crisis."

"This is definitely a situation that we should all be watching."


People Of Earth: Prepare For Economic Disaster
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Prepare how? I'd rather be one of the first people to go in such a scenario. Seriously.
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Buy the gold coins, silver coins, emergency food, water filters, and apple i-phones that are offered for sale on the linked blog.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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Prepare how? I'd rather be one of the first people to go in such a scenario. Seriously.
Buy a bicycle .....
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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This is not just doom & gloom it is what is happening today...........

"Already, ABC News is reporting that regular unleaded gasoline is going for $5.29 a gallon at one gas station in Orlando, Florida."

"But global food prices are rising. According to the United Nations, the global price of food has risen for 8 consecutive months. Last month, the global price of food set a brand new all-time record high. Many are starting to fear that we could actually be in the early stages of a major global food crisis."

"This is definitely a situation that we should all be watching."


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The highest I found on Gas Buddy in Orlando was $ 4.29.....
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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This is not just doom & gloom it is what is happening today...........

"Already, ABC News is reporting that regular unleaded gasoline is going for $5.29 a gallon at one gas station in Orlando, Florida."

"But global food prices are rising. According to the United Nations, the global price of food has risen for 8 consecutive months. Last month, the global price of food set a brand new all-time record high. Many are starting to fear that we could actually be in the early stages of a major global food crisis."

"This is definitely a situation that we should all be watching."


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The oil price problem is very fixable. Ditch the SUVs. Design cities & towns with transit, walking, & bikes in mind. If America would actually make a sustained effort at both conservation, drilling more, and developing alternatives, we could be both more energy efficient & less reliant on foreign oil. We've known this for over 40 years now. We just haven't done much about it.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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Ditch SUVs? You mean ditch every car except hybrid subcompacts... BMW, Mercedes, etc all consume more gas than SUVs...

Design cities and towns with transit? Sounds good, and how are you going to get 5 miles from the train depot when you got 10 minutes? Walk?

Seriously... you sound like those "hype" machines that like to hype everything and not know that it is severely impractical in real life...

Sustained efforts at conservation? Developing alternatives? You do realize we consume, not conserve, you could try to conserve but it all ends up being consumed one way or another... develop alternatives??? Really, like solar power and hydroelectric? Hmm... so far, all we have done is give subsidies to these companies to develop NOTHING... they produce, they don't develop... let's be honest, every time the government gives money to these alternative energy programs, they NEVER develop anything, they just produce yesterday's technology and sell at a bigger profit with government subsidy... even Obama is doing the exact thing...

You know what the definition of madness is? Its doing the same wrong thing over and over again and expecting a different result... what you have said has been done over and over and over and FAILED and why are you expecting a different result?
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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Buy a bicycle .....
Some will make huge fun with the idea of using a simple bicycle for utility & transportation but who knows that may be all that we can afford after we buy groceries and gas??
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Some will make huge fun with the idea of using a simple bicycle for utility & transportation but who knows that may be all that we can afford after we buy groceries and gas??
If all you have is a bike for transportation, why would you be buying gas?
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Old 03-06-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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"but global food prices are rising" ...

What, pray tell, do you expect me to use to efficiently till my fields, harvest my crops, and deliver them to the processors?

Do you think that I'm going to pull a plow with a bicycle? Or go back to oxen and manage to plow a couple acres per day? Hand cut wheat and go back to the days of a "4-acre" harvester (that was a top field hand who could cut that much every day for a couple of days; I know I couldn't last a few hundred square feet)? Thresh the wheat with a blanket and basket? Ship it to market behind a bicycle?

The more energy costs me to buy, the more it costs me to raise my crops and harvest them. If you want cheap food, then you'll have to get me (and all the other producers) reasonably priced energy sources. Otherwise, I've got to pass those costs along or go out of business. How many bushels of wheat do you think a Prius will handle? we normally ship out 60,000 lbs at a time with one driver to the elevator ... how much labor will it take to drive how many trips with that Prius? or maybe we can ship it with trailers behind bicycles? It's only 85 miles to the best marketplace for my wheat. All you tiptop shape bicycle riders can manage that with a trailer with the first 9 miles of county dirt roads, right?

For the folk who use herbicides, pesticides, and many fertilizers ... they are depending upon petroleum sources, too .... I already take a big hit in my per acre production by raising crops organically, but even the plastic covers on my greenhouses for vegetable production are petroleum based products. And I still have to spray my fields or spread organic fertilizers with diesel powered equpment, along with delivering tons of organic matter per acre to my fields.

One of the principal reasons food got so cheap in the world markets is because the basic foodstuffs got very efficient in the farmer to consumer chain. It's not that way anymore, no matter how much you'd wish it to be otherwise. FWIW, the farmer isn't the fellow making all the profit margin in the loaf of bread anymore, either. If you advocate going back to third world methods of production by hand and livestock, you'll not be able to feed the world these days ... let alone our big cities.
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