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Old 03-08-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Are Califonia firms closing or leaving? | california, small, business - The Orange County Register

According to this article, 1 in 5 California small businesses say they will either relocate or close within 5 years. The most common reason given is oppressive state government regulation. With the state needing so badly to cut its budget, is it not time to begin looking at eliminating some of the bureaucracy that is strangling small business?
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Are Califonia firms closing or leaving? | california, small, business - The Orange County Register

According to this article, 1 in 5 California small businesses say they will either relocate or close within 5 years. The most common reason given is oppressive state government regulation. With the state needing so badly to cut its budget, is it not time to begin looking at eliminating some of the bureaucracy that is strangling small business?
Agreed. CA is a great example of a state expecting and demanding so many social services that create a huge bureaucracy and a huge deficit, take care.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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And at least one of the other five is being overly optimistic since the failure rate for small businesses is well over 4%/year regardless of the state.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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It's a bluff.

Even if some of them make good on their threats, I wouldn't give a whole lot of weight to it because we can be assured that someone will take their place. The simple fact is that California is just too big-and potentially profitable-and therefore-irresistable State. The population desnity and per-person costs for advertising alone provides a draw.

So bureaucracy and tax costs will simply be a hoop they'll begrudgingly (but willingly) jump through to get their piece of the 45 or so million people here.

Don't think the State doesn't know that.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's a bluff.
It's only a bluff if they are personal services.

If it's business services or manufacturing, they can relocate anywhere, like Nevada.

If I'm a security/environmental consulting firm, you're going to contract my services no matter where I am, even if my offices are on the Moon, and I don't need to be in California.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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What is a small business is pretty broad term and some are quite large and can actually locate there business i one state and serve another state.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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This is silly, the poll had nothing to do with whether they are going to leave California or not:

"But here's the question: Are they closing their businesses forever or moving away? Some respondents thought the question was asking whether their businesses can survive and others put the emphasis on whether they would stay in California or move their businesses out of state."

Small businesses are continuously being created and destroyed, this isn't news.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: 95468
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It's not so bad.
Five years ago I made 100K running 3 small businesses.
Worked very hard and long. Weekends too.
Last year the same businesses paid 16K and I fish most days and live in subsidised housing YOU pay for.
All thanks to California NOT enforcing immigration and employment laws.
One drawback is I have to fish from a city pier because I can't afford a $50 fishing licence.
But the fishing is good.
When California ruins your livelyhood come down to the pier and I'll show where the fish are and where to sign up for a sweet deal on a 3 bedroom.

I worked those businesses for 28 years and it the flood of illegals that killed them. It wasn't natural causes.

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Old 03-09-2011, 02:25 AM
 
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I have already relocated my business and I strongly suggest others to do the same. You can make more money elsewhere.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I have already relocated my business and I strongly suggest others to do the same. You can make more money elsewhere.
Tell me, how would I make more money by relocating?
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