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Old 03-14-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Bicycling wouldn't save anything, it would just reduce economic activity and/or shift what people spend their money on.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Imagine cycling 20 miles one way to work each morning...taking 2 hours instead of 30 minutes...arriving all sweaty and dirty and smelly...

Now imagine having to repeat that in the evening...

Now imagine having to do that in a northern tier state...in December...when your both your morning and evening commutes will be in the dark and when the temperature will be in the teens...

Imagine either buying a cheap $500 bicycle every three months to replace the one that wore out from 2,500+ miles of use or having to buy an expensive $1,500-$2,000 bicycle every year to replace the one that wore out from 10,000+ miles of use...
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Imagine either buying a cheap $500 bicycle every three months to replace the one that wore out from 2,500+ miles of use or having to buy an expensive $1,500-$2,000 bicycle every year to replace the one that wore out from 10,000+ miles of use...
A $500 bike isn't going to wear out from 2,500 miles of use, the majority of the parts will last many years. It would just require some mirror repairs all of which can be pretty easily done yourself.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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Bicycling wouldn't save anything, it would just reduce economic activity and/or shift what people spend their money on.
Might have missed this one in school or something but here goes -- that which we do not spend, we still have.

Ben Franklin taught it a little different -- A penny saved is a penny earned.

Goes along with that Debt is usually a dumb idea lesson you might have missed.

Back towards the OP topic, to stop doing something totally wasteful -- i.e., buying fuel and burning it -- that is not just saving -- if you still get the same outcome from less expense it is a Gain. Called "increased profitability" in some circles. Crazy, crazy, idea.

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Old 03-14-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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No way a modern econmy can go to bicycles for peroswnal reanprotation. That is clear just by looig what happened when china went from third world to more modern. Bicycles start disappearig. Besides which bicyles limit personal mobiltiy especailly in a modern economy. China is now the largest aut market in the world.Even then what made cities great is their advantage in transportatio of material and concentratio of energey at the star of the 20th centruy. That problem in more rural area no longer exist so people don't have to lves i ciy ghettoes like then and can lvie further out. en comanies have found that movingot makes alot fo economic sense because of problem of concentration and its results.19th centruy solutions to 21st century problem rarely workout and there is no going back once the people have a choice. Its the ole urban wants that we have spend billions in urban renewal on that have failed really.Right now most modren urban areas are wrokig on nw to bring sub-burban workers inott eh cities to revent further inductrial movement tot eh burb areas;not gettig bicycle that have limited usage to move people every far.Its a tredn that started after GIs came back form WWII and has just steadily move when they fund new areas form the urban crowding they grewup in. Almost a rediscovering their roots .
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes NH.
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I used to work with a man who rode his bike to work 12 miles each way as long as it was 10 degrees or warmer and not raining when he left the house.

He averaged about 200 days a year. He was also in very good shape.
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Bicycling wouldn't save anything, it would just reduce economic activity and/or shift what people spend their money on.
Not true since only a tiny percentage of cost would be incurred to support a bicycle infrastructure.

People who whine about bicycles can't fathom the idea of not being able to drive whenever wherever they want to. THAT is what's called SPOILED!
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I used to work with a man who rode his bike to work 12 miles each way as long as it was 10 degrees or warmer and not raining when he left the house.

He averaged about 200 days a year. He was also in very good shape.

Love the idea, but when you hit 50, 60, 65, 70 yrs of age, unless you are in tremendous shape you'd be hard put to bicycle esp on typical roads and highways. Not to mention transporting anything like groceries. Doesn't seem very realistic to me. Our cities and towns, for the most part, are not designed for safe biking (helmets notwithstanding).
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Imagine cycling 20 miles one way to work each morning...taking 2 hours instead of 30 minutes...arriving all sweaty and dirty and smelly...

Now imagine having to repeat that in the evening...

Now imagine having to do that in a northern tier state...in December...when your both your morning and evening commutes will be in the dark and when the temperature will be in the teens...

Imagine either buying a cheap $500 bicycle every three months to replace the one that wore out from 2,500+ miles of use or having to buy an expensive $1,500-$2,000 bicycle every year to replace the one that wore out from 10,000+ miles of use...

You must think all bicycles are big box quality which is NOT true by a long ways.
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