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So does progressive tax rates. Flat tax and no loopholes!
Exactly. If Melanie Gates and a single mom taking classes at the community college and paying for child care both get a part time job at a convenience store, they should both pay exactly the same tax on what they earn. Fair is fair.
Oh, wait. She shouldn't have had kids, it's her own fault if she can't pay all that tax and still make ends meet. If the kids suffer, it's her fault for having them, not yours for gouging their family resources in order to increase your own after-tax income at their expense. I forgot that sex is only morally permissible among the rich.
How do you feel about free and easy abortions on demand for all those moms who can't really afford the cost of having kids, but like to have sex just as much as you do? Have you lobbied your congressman for that, so those poor women can more easily subsidize your tax liability? Or are you pro-life AND pro flat tax for the poor, the halt, the lame, the retired? Force them to have their babies, and then keep right on taxing them the full flat tax rate, no loophole, like for dependents.
How do you feel about free and easy abortions on demand for all those moms who can't really afford the cost of having kids, but like to have sex just as much as you do? Have you lobbied your congressman for that, so those poor women can more easily subsidize your tax liability? Or are you pro-life AND pro flat tax for the poor, the halt, the lame, the retired? Force them to have their babies, and then keep right on taxing them the full flat tax rate, no loophole, like for dependents.
I believe someone once suggested that the whole reason for Roe vs Wade was to give poor women who couldn't afford their babies a way out, thus freeing government (Read: taxpayers) from having to subsidize their upbringing.
Exactly. If Melanie Gates and a single mom taking classes at the community college and paying for child care both get a part time job at a convenience store, they should both pay exactly the same tax on what they earn. Fair is fair.
Oh, wait. She shouldn't have had kids, it's her own fault if she can't pay all that tax and still make ends meet. If the kids suffer, it's her fault for having them, not yours for gouging their family resources in order to increase your own after-tax income at their expense. I forgot that sex is only morally permissible among the rich.
How do you feel about free and easy abortions on demand for all those moms who can't really afford the cost of having kids, but like to have sex just as much as you do? Have you lobbied your congressman for that, so those poor women can more easily subsidize your tax liability? Or are you pro-life AND pro flat tax for the poor, the halt, the lame, the retired? Force them to have their babies, and then keep right on taxing them the full flat tax rate, no loophole, like for dependents.
I tried to read your response and wasn't able to tell whether you were sarcastic or not... and whether you are really for or against flat tax.
I'm for flat tax, but I also believe it would be fair to eliminate tax on the first $10,000 (just throwing out a number, I am in no position to define the actual amount). That way the poorest of the poor working folks have an opportunity to live without relying on welfare. And the rich and the poor all beenfit on the first $10,000, so it's fair in my opinion.
Ofcourse, above all this, I prefer eliminating earned income tax all together and focusing on captial gains and consumption tax. But that's just me.
one thing a lot of folks need to realize is that GE is a huge benefactor of some "green" tax breaks given out to companies because they are the largest manufacturer of windmills in the world. so, while I agree they shouldn't be paying $0 in taxes, it's not all due to evil loopholes. the company is somewhat following the incentives that exist right now for the environment as well as many of the other incentives that are out there (good and bad).
one thing a lot of folks need to realize is that GE is a huge benefactor of some "green" tax breaks given out to companies because they are the largest manufacturer of windmills in the world. so, while I agree they shouldn't be paying $0 in taxes, it's not all due to evil loopholes. the company is somewhat following the incentives that exist right now for the environment as well as many of the other incentives that are out there (good and bad).
Good point. This is the same way on how I got the government to pay for 75% of my new (well now 1.5 years old), hybrid car.
People seem so hung up that the number is zero (or a credit). Let's assume for a second that GE earned another XX billion of profits that their credits didn't cover and that resulted in a billion of tax expense. I'm guessing most people wouldn't even blink an eye. Yet, it would be the same "reduction" from whatever number they started with as their tax exposure.
GE is the perfect example of corporate welfare. They were the largest recipients of TARP funds, continuously offshore jobs to countries with slave labor, pay their executives huge compensation and when it's their turn to step up to the plate, they don't contribute. Immelt is Oblahblah's buddy and no scrutiny. This company is scum. If it wasn't for the largesse of the taxpayers in 2008, this pig wouldn't even exist today
GE gave Obama a hughe campain donation, that's how it's done.
Interesting screen name. I used to spend time in a town named Lynxville, WI.
Actually, GE has given much more to Republicans historically. But, they would certainly do their best to court any potential winner.
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