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Old 05-16-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I was reading an article lately concerning blatant income tax evasion in Greece.
It occurred to me that the problems of Greece were not of a fiscal nature but of a moral one.
At the point where cheating and stealing become normal behavior, economies fail to function.
What is disturbing to me is the trend in the direction of acceptance of lower moral standard here in the US.
It seems like we are becoming more and more like Greece and that we are willing to accept any amount of cheating, lying, and stealing so long as it allows us to enjoy our lifestyle without having to pay the real price for it.
The question is how long we will be able to avoid reality.
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Greece has a ridiculous number of problems, and some of them truly are financial. Most of all is a bloated government. 1/3 of the workforce is employed by their federal government. They are the poster child for why a country or state shouldn't have so many people reliant on the government for their wages. It is made even worse because these workers are part of a union, and they have oversized power over politicians.

The abuse of taxes by the wealthy is a cultural problem that ends up a financial issue and makes it difficult for the government to maintain credibility. How can they cut expenses when they let the wealthy cheat on their taxes?
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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Well... almost 50% of the people in Romania work for the Government. More than 60% of the economy is black market... yet they have no problem so far... because that remaining 40% of the economy is really strong. You can't say the same about Greece which has an economy based on tourism and real estate and is really easy affected during financial problems in Europe.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Morally, a great majority of Americans would commit "victimless crime" if it were not for the unacceptable risk of getting caught. Tax evasion is seen as a victimless crime by most people, especially when one considers that the loopholes are there precisely in order to facilitate non-payment of a tax that would apply to those who do not retain an accountant to discover it.

Let's say you and I both have income from some source, neither of us pays pays tax on it, because you hire an accountant to properly list the income in such a way that it is not taxable, and I simply neglect to report it, which of us is the "criminal" for nonpayment of tax on that income?
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post

What is disturbing to me is the trend in the direction of acceptance of lower moral standard here in the US.

It seems like we are becoming more and more like Greece and that we are willing to accept any amount of cheating, lying, and stealing so long as it allows us to enjoy our lifestyle without having to pay the real price for it.

The question is how long we will be able to avoid reality.
A fish rots from the head down.

Our Lying, Cheating, and Stealing starts right from the top.

Look at our last four POTUSi.

GW "WMD" Bush.
Bill "depends on what the definition of 'is,' is." Clinton.
George "read my lips," Bush.
Ronald "No trading weapons for hostages (actually trading weapons for drugs)" Reagan.

Lying douchebags, one and all.

Liars, Cheaters and Thieves exist. As well as do douchebags. Part of the World.

Where we mess up in tolerating it from the top.

Most folks that know the Honor Code -- "Do not lie, cheat or steal" -- forget the next part -- "Nor tolerate those who do."
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