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Old 08-19-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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Then, circa 1950-60s
* Doctor
* Engineer
* School Teacher
* Fireman
* TV repair man
* Banker

Now, 21st century
* Gold miser
* Ghetto gigolo
* Gossip blogger
* Offshore Internet gambling/ exterme porn web master
* Phishing scam artist with offices in Nigeria
* Banker

Banker was of course ahead of its time.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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don't forget unpaid internships.
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Old 08-19-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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don't forget unpaid internships.
or just internment.
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Old 08-19-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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Then, circa 1950-60s
* Doctor
* Engineer
* School Teacher
* Fireman
* TV repair man
* Banker

Now, 21st century
* Gold miser
* Ghetto gigolo
* Gossip blogger
* Offshore Internet gambling/ exterme porn web master
* Phishing scam artist with offices in Nigeria
* Banker
Banker was of course ahead of its time.

You forgot drug dealer and reality tv star.
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Old 08-19-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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* Doctor
* Engineer
* School Teacher
* Fireman
* TV repair man
* Banker

I don't get it. Of all the "then" career fields TV repairman is the only one there aren't lots of today, because TVs are so much smaller percentage of one's income.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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[/indent]I don't get it. Of all the "then" career fields TV repairman is the only one there aren't lots of today, because TVs are so much smaller percentage of one's income.

Oh sure those jobs still exist, but they are out of fashion and for suckers.That takes hard work and a life time of debt slavery. The ones I listed are still worth doing as an alternative to the social safety net. If you engage in white collar crime, you could lose 2 to 3 years of your life. If you borrow for an education, it could be 20-30 years.

The goods and services economy is just a carnival in town, or an old retired couple in an RV traveling through the boulevards of the finance and rentier class. You want to stick with careers as a middle man with no real responsibility, or sell something addictive offshore. The highest paying jobs produce nothing so never make anything that anyone could bump their head on like a sharp corner on a block of jello. Working for the state was not a bad gig, but it looks like they have found out a way to get at the pension funds with triple A ratings on burlap bags of fish guts. You cannot even be a slightly dishonest and lazy slug of a state employee anymore without getting screwed.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Oh sure those jobs still exist, but they are out of fashion and for suckers.That takes hard work and a life time of debt slavery.
Fireman is a lifetime of debt? Out of fashion I read they have a waiting list to become a fireman in my city.

Teachers, engineers that is a four year degree. Certainly no guarantee of a lifetime of debt slavery. Not sure how engineering is for suckers that is a career that is very well paying compared to the education requirements.

When did banking become out of fashion, that is still a very lucrative field that many people would love to break into.

You sound like you're taking great liberty with reality here to support your rants.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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Engineering is fickle work and unstable. Also depends on what engineering. As opposed to nursing, not everybody with a pulse can just up and say "oh lookie a good paying career I can go to Comm college for." and jump the bandwagon. Quantitative skills are not the strong suit of our high school graduates. Even so, the field is saturated and more people I know (myself included) work outside the primary field they went to school in than those that do. It's generally skull numbing work and unless you jump into management (yeii joy..) your salary caps early, necessitating the rat race of dual income households. Great, if you can keep both jobs in the same town. Too many academic marriages working across state lines for me to even consider that construct a bona fide "family unit". Bunch of commuting slaves.

That's the point of the thread I believe. If you come here and tell me that doctor-lawyer-engineer is the sure path approach to an economic solvent lifestyle in this country, you're snuffing the glue. Way too many suckers with JDs out there doing paralegal work on 35K in "Boston" cost of living areas, or outright pro bono work. Saddled to the hilt with McMansion sized debt. It would be one thing if all these academic credentials were free, then sure knock yourself out, no harm no foul. But when you went in the hole for upper five digits or more? Yeah, screw the doctor-engineer-lawyer mantra. It's just not solvent employment anymore for the majority. Even doctor you have to watch like a hawk. When accounting for time to get degree plus the repayment period, in these days of malpractice panic, being a GP doesn't really look all that appealing. And this is for a crowd of people who are not the bottom rung of their high school class, academically speaking. Reality TV star is right.

The other thing is that these comparisons are valuable in terms of the majority. Surely soon enough some know-it-all that found the internet yesterday and declares he/she discovered it, will pipe in here and declare "ugh, well, you need to go to Tier A law school in order to make it worthwhile, otherwise don't waste your time". What a gem. The classic, we all need to be statistical outliers in order for the career outlooks to hold true. As useful as the runway behind you, as we say in aviation. The median matters. I don't care about the statistical outliers, they're only valuable in that they are fodder for the brochures that sell a dream to the majority that by virtue of being the majority will never be able to attain. I care that this country is not supported on the backs of part-time best buy customer service associates and perennial hotel maids, some of which now have JDs mind you!!!

I'd love to hear one serious list that would accurately reflect the reality of today. The only one I can come up with is nursing. Wayy too many people (mostly women on that career) who can't count with their fingers are making pretty decent coin with relatively decent job portability on account of nursing. Other than that, I can't think of a single career. Oh maybe energy "landman". Up to low six figures for being a traveling secretary/mineral rights deed sniff dog, you can't beat that. Yeii service economy.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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Fireman is a lifetime of debt? Out of fashion I read they have a waiting list to become a fireman in my city.

Teachers, engineers that is a four year degree. Certainly no guarantee of a lifetime of debt slavery. Not sure how engineering is for suckers that is a career that is very well paying compared to the education requirements.

When did banking become out of fashion, that is still a very lucrative field that many people would love to break into.

You sound like you're taking great liberty with reality here to support your rants.
Rant? What rant? And why the insults?

You sound like a complete stiff over analyzing something that was said tongue and cheek.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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Rant? What rant? And why the insults?

You sound like a complete stiff over analyzing something that was said tongue and cheek.
Of course and it was funny.

Keep in mind that some business-folks tend to be a bit slow-witted.

That is why I ask them if I need to draw them a cartoon.
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