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Can you folks please stop spewing this garbage regarding China.
We have a huge problem in that we were running large deficits into a severe recession/depression. China is running massive surpluses. Two entirely different situations.
They can afford rainy days. We can't. The only thing literally saving us right now is the USD as the sole reserve currency.
The problem with China isn't on the economic side. It's political. Their citizens have traded off civil liberties for economic growth. Once that repressive political system doesn't generate the type of growth they demand, they'll go after the political system.
So what if they have a trade surplus. It's well known that their factories produce, even if the demand isn't there. Their factories are often owned by the state itself. When they sell junk cheaper then the price of the commodities used, they are loosing money. Just having a trade surplus doesn't mean they are doing well. This is the problem with the state ownership model. The real benefactors are the countries supplying the commodities used.
Have you considered the reasons why they have such a massive trade surplus? People are working for wages that do not allow them to consume. After China gets done sucking the wealth out of consumer nations like the U.S. (often for a loss), the workers in China still do not have enough to consume. After the consumers in the U.S and Europe have nothing left to spend, China is screwed. The people in China also do not have the safety net to catch the masses who will be unemployed. China is much more vulnerable that you seem to realize, which shouldn't be surprising given their economies dependence on satisfying the worlds consumer demand for cheap garbage. My guess is that a depression in China would be worse than anything we have ever seen.
Let me supply the numbers for him, since he hasn't done it.
According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, violent crime (murder, rape, robbery, arson) declined by 6 percent from 2010. Property crimes (theft, embezzlement, burglary) dropped by over 3% from 2010.
I wonder what Modeerf will say to this. I'm guessing it will be:
1. "The numbers are made up and are the result of a government conspiracy";
2. "Just you wait, tomorrow the numbers will skyrocket"; or
3. "I don't care about statistics, didn't you hear about the double murder down in Texas last week!"
Take your pick, he'll never concede he's wrong (even when he is).
And some people actually still take the kind of garbage he spouts seriously....
Not true, i concede i was wrong. Though not for long.
It isn't conceding you are wrong to admit one reason that you think some way is wrong, and then look for new reasons to come to the same exact conclusions till they are debunked. It's a sign of illogical thought processes to have a conclusion in mind before you have a series of reasons why in place.
When a logical rational human being finds their reasoning for a conclusion are wrong, they alter their conclusion to be based on what is right. A crank finds their reasoning is wrong, they look for other reasons but their conclusions stay the same.
Where i live, it has risen 2.5% over the last 2yrs. I was construing it was a national rise, not localized.
So earlier you were trying to twist things to where you actually meant just financial crimes and suicide, now you are saying by "crime is up" you actually just meant in your local area.
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Originally Posted by modeerf
Suicide Rates Rise Among Baby Boomers - US News and World Report
So when asked how you know the suicide rate is up 3% you managed to google up an article that talks about suicide rates among middle aged people in a study from 2000-2005? Nice.
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Originally Posted by modeerf
It is the 10th overall.
Two posts ago you said "Suicide is the 4th leading cause of death in America." Now you've moved it back down to 10th.
Two posts ago you said "Suicide is the 4th leading cause of death in America." Now you've moved it back down to 10th.
It is 4th among adults 18-65. Pretty big part of the population.
It doesn't cover infants and elderly. When you include all ages it is 10th.
Do you think 4th is acceptable?
How about 10th?
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