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Old 01-28-2012, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes NH.
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The claim that New Home Construction is 70% of the housing market is not in the link. Where does this number come from?

Proof please, not just assertions.
See above post. The article does not make that claim.
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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Default The Money Changers Speak!

Israel apparently has more than Iran on it's mind.

Cha- ching.... gow!


Specter of Euro Collapse Spurs Emergency Plan: Israel Overnight - BusinessWeek
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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a rebuttal:
Don't Be Afraid of the Keystone XL Pipeline - Reason Magazine

a side comment:
if we continue to have the job destruction that we have (which i believe will escalate as the holiday jobs disappear) we are going to have bigger ACTUAL problems than any "potential" spill problem. there have to be jobs created in this country or we are in serious ACTUAL trouble going forward.

i think decisions need to be made driven on logic, not fear.

also, energy independence would lead to the diminished prospect of war for oil-which would be a good thing for every single american. (not to mention the rest of the world)
We can process and sell Tar Sand here in America. The pipeline is for the Oil Companies to sell it on the world market. We don't need a pipeline
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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See above post. The article does not make that claim.
Yes, I know that. The poster has a long history of linking articles and making stuff up about what is contained in them.

I wanted to watch him squirm trying to explain it
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Austerity measures may help the corrupt financials get back on track, but they also bring about a police state.
Greece could be the country to watch, as a pre-cursor to how America will handle it's own Austerity (broken promises) measures.


BBC News - Greeks reject German plan for EU budget commissioner
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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We can process and sell Tar Sand here in America. The pipeline is for the Oil Companies to sell it on the world market. We don't need a pipeline
We could do a lot of things that help America. Unfortunately those that run America are Global Citizens that look at Americans as chattel to be used for their own self seeking.

The only hope for regaining our foundation is for a true Independent to be elected.
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Yes, I know that. The poster has a long history of linking articles and making stuff up about what is contained in them.
Chasing his conclusion, even if it requires lying to himself.

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I wanted to watch him squirm trying to explain it
I don't think he cares, just soldiers on with the latest delusion.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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We could do a lot of things that help America. Unfortunately those that run America are Global Citizens that look at Americans as chattel to be used for their own self seeking.

The only hope for regaining our foundation is for a true Independent to be elected.
Obama said NO, I agree hauling this glop to Texas is only to allow the Oil Companies to use it to speculate on the world market. Process it here and sell it here.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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Obama said NO, I agree hauling this glop to Texas is only to allow the Oil Companies to use it to speculate on the world market. Process it here and sell it here.
It would be processed here. Where it is sold is unknown.

There is a delicate balance with Canada and Mexico. They have us by the balls really.

Close the Mexican border, and watch oil go up, and the bidding war begin with China. Canada is already threatening to sell to China. They have plenty of processing capabilities.
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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Spain is collapsing from the Air down...

BBC News - Spanair collapses, stranding 20,000 people
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