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Old 10-25-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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i'm not complaining if there is more socialism, I will just work less and get more from the government, retire young with a good package. I like the Greek system actually - 90 days vacation, retire at 56 with full pension...the good life. Infact, I guess that is the path we are heading into so those that work hard to earn their money while the government devalues could be foolish in the future...
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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i'm not complaining if there is more socialism, I will just work less and get more from the government, retire young with a good package. I like the Greek system actually - 90 days vacation, retire at 56 with full pension...the good life. Infact, I guess that is the path we are heading into so those that work hard to earn their money while the government devalues could be foolish in the future...

Europe made that system. If Greece had their own currency, their plummeting exchange value would have put a fire under them because their retirement would have been poor. Instead Europe loaned them more money. I could have told them its inevitable. However guess who wins? Finance does because they have someone in debt at a high interest rate. You see the trick is to get your sick mother into debt at a high interest rate even though she can't pay. The second trick is to toss her on the street unless you pay. That way I get her high interest debt with your credit worthiness, the best of both worlds. Yum , yum give me some says the bankster.
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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If our writing skills are decent, and if the reader's comprehension skills are decent, then no one will need an emoticon to tell us what is sarcasm. The enjoyment of sarcasm for both writer and recipient is lost is there has to be a warning sign stating "Hey, this is sarcasm!".

The reliance on emoticons for such things is a sign of semi-literacy. Slackjaw's meaning was clear as a bell.
Bravo Escort Rider,

Admiration for those that maintain their literary guns instead of boasting how well they stay within the margins of their coloring book while laughing at an artist. Careful now, thats a literary device. It could be a dangerous as a mysterious package from a Luddite on the door step of MIT.
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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Collapse is a very finite term, it doesn't waver in the face of those bigger more unpredictable wild card aspects of a fourteen trillion dollar annual GDP. Most of the old guard civilizations just simply rotted away, suffering from a military/social/economic arrogance that plagued most of them. The US is going through the same type of economic contraction that was a precursor to the end days of all empires. Our social rot is always there to remind us of the dangers of it's spread.

Contraction not collapse, but that doesn't mean that in the end our nation will weather the storms any better than those once great civilizations that dotted the planet thousands of years ago. Most American's have a stilted view of themselves and their society when contemplating their own place in history, I think most Roman's did too. My guess is that this recent upheaval is just one more spike in the western collective coffin, all good things have some kind of ending, we are a relatively young nation, we could have a few centuries yet to go before our own demise could or should be considered near; "It takes time to ruin a civilization.....But time is all it takes"..
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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If our writing skills are decent, and if the reader's comprehension skills are decent, then no one will need an emoticon to tell us what is sarcasm. The enjoyment of sarcasm for both writer and recipient is lost is there has to be a warning sign stating "Hey, this is sarcasm!".

The reliance on emoticons for such things is a sign of semi-literacy. Slackjaw's meaning was clear as a bell.
I completely agree, but ebonics has many participants, and a symbol is a symbol to some, not art.

Which to me is a barometer of the times we are in.

Your post was clearly sarcasm. Not all are artisans, or just merely on top of their game in a given moment.
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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sorry, i just reviewed and saw that you asked back on pg. 1

I can only guess when. There are opposing powers fighting for survival, and the IMF always comes out on top.

My gut says before the summer of 2012.
If it doesn't, will you finally stop predicting the end of the world?

You have been ranting about the giant evil conspiracy bringing down the economy for a year now, and every day it doesn't you have some tin foil hatted excuse.

A biological mental disorder is not necessarily a bad thing, unless you refuse to get help for it. At least bchris knew what was happening, knew he needed help, and I hope he found it eventually (it's easy to search history and find what broke him). I've watched a family member do this and refuse to get help, even the people who tried to give him food while he was on the street were part of the evil conspiracy against him. Get help before you are living under and bridge.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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With the earnings season coming up, i would say that the NYSE 4th quarter reports will shock the avg. investor.
What about the earnings season do you know that has you so spooked? Financials published so far are surprisingly solid, and many estimates for growth are being revised upward.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:25 PM
 
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If it doesn't, will you finally stop predicting the end of the world?

You have been ranting about the giant evil conspiracy bringing down the economy for a year now, and every day it doesn't you have some tin foil hatted excuse.

A biological mental disorder is not necessarily a bad thing, unless you refuse to get help for it. At least bchris knew what was happening, knew he needed help, and I hope he found it eventually (it's easy to search history and find what broke him). I've watched a family member do this and refuse to get help, even the people who tried to give him food while he was on the street were part of the evil conspiracy against him. Get help before you are living under and bridge.
You are mis-characterizing me.

The world doesn't end, and i don't rant.

Are you someone who trusts financial and physical technology to the degree that we are impervious to another dark ages?
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I completely agree, but ebonics has many participants, and a symbol is a symbol to some, not art.

Which to me is a barometer of the times we are in.

Your post was clearly sarcasm. Not all are artisans, or just merely on top of their game in a given moment.
You really lost me there. My post was not sarcasm at all. It was totally straight-forward. Your introduction of Ebonics into the discussion I found rather jarring but I don't want to ask you to clarify that and I don't want to pursue it because we are getting pretty far from the thread topic here.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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What about the earnings season do you know that has you so spooked? Financials published so far are surprisingly solid, and many estimates for growth are being revised upward.
The financials were nothing more than accountant wizardry.

When your interest on your credit card or mortgage go down. Do you count it as profit?

The only thing that will keep the holiday shopping at or above last yr. Will be those that are using their last bits of credit before going bankrupt.
There will be another round of huge layoffs at the end of the year in the financials, service, and gov't.
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