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Old 11-17-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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If they want to pay more, no one is holding back from donating their money to the government but I do not think they should try to force others what to do with their earned money. Take care.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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If they want to pay more, no one is holding back from donating their money to the government but I do not think they should try to force others what to do with their earned money. Take care.
Agreed. All these "wealthy" people that complain they aren't paying enough could send extra money to the government but they never do. If they want to give the government more money to waste then they can. For me, I don't want to pay any more taxes. I might be inclined to pay a little more if the government wasn't wasteful and knew what they were doing, but at this point they just corrupt themselves.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I'd pay more for a balanced budget... but if you give the government a dollar, they run out and spend $1.50. I also disagree with what they use most of our tax dollars for. Turns out Homeland Security does a much better job of stopping people from importing gray market cars than it does at stopping actual terrorists.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Agreed. All these "wealthy" people that complain they aren't paying enough could send extra money to the government but they never do. If they want to give the government more money to waste then they can. For me, I don't want to pay any more taxes. I might be inclined to pay a little more if the government wasn't wasteful and knew what they were doing, but at this point they just corrupt themselves.
That reminded me of something I read somewhere.

You never trust your money to children, thieves, and politicians.

Take care.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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My suggestion would be for these fortunate souls to a) give more to the IRS b) donate more to charity c) set up a PAC to support candidates / cauases that theybelieve in d) start a foundation

How is it that people are ” outraged” that wealth is concentrated but the don't blink that perhaps the most powerful bicameral committee ever has time to waste listening to such a tiny group? Cripes I think my poker buddy has had more than 45 guys in his basement for our March Madness blowup...
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:20 PM
 
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Agreed. All these "wealthy" people that complain they aren't paying enough could send extra money to the government but they never do. If they want to give the government more money to waste then they can. For me, I don't want to pay any more taxes. I might be inclined to pay a little more if the government wasn't wasteful and knew what they were doing, but at this point they just corrupt themselves.
This is a disingenuous argument that is frequently advanced by diehard conservatives opposed to any tax increase. Let me point out the obvious, individual effort--without systemic change--is not going to result in any real improvement. If I follow the logic you are using here, I shouldn't advocate any changes in any laws at all even when I see great injustices being perpetrated. Rather, I should simply try to conform my own personal behavior to some personal moral standard. Fat chance that will fix anything.

Groups of all sorts frequently lobby the government for changes in laws that affect all of us. Should they be prohibited from doing so? Heck no. If a legislator feels the law they are suggesting is inappropriate, he should vote against it. I'm sure many legislators will oppose any tax increase. If a majority are in favor, let the majority rule on that issue.

Finally, do you feel the portion of government spending being used for Social Security, Medicare, and Defense is wasteful and unnecessary? That plus the interest we pay on the nation debt is approximately 70% of the money your federal government is spending.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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If they want to pay more, no one is holding back from donating their money to the government but I do not think they should try to force others what to do with their earned money. Take care.
Yeah, just force the lower classes to pay taxes instead of them.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Yeah, just force the lower classes to pay taxes instead of them.
I can see that there is some missinformation out there. Actually, the masses are easy to missinform by politicians that know how to pull the victim card. Take care.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:10 AM
 
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give more money for what?

crony capitalism?

enriching the kleptocracy?

bailing out yet more crooks?

look at what is going on in the world.

fix the damn system first.

otherwise, you are throwing even more good money after bad, and it isn't going to end well.

i see that as the single biggest difference between the tea party and OWS-the tea party wants to defund the kleptocracy while the OWS movement would actually grow the kleptocracy by not addressing the issue of government corruption first.
look at this story for just one:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/02/obamas-green-subsidies-attract-do-gooder-bandits (broken link)

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