Child Poverty In America will break you heart...... (bankruptcy, debt, mortgage)
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this is the backward thinking that causes problems. apparently according to boompa, people who can afford to have many children shouldnt and people who cant afford to take care of children should have them.
Yes, but why is it we live in a country where so many Americans can go to work every day, and still not afford to provide the necessities for their children? There are plenty of people who had livable wage jobs when they decided to have children years ago. Today, many of those folks do not have jobs or are working low paying jobs. How can someone look them in the eye and say, guess you shouldn't have had children?
Simple soundbites do not address the real issues at hand. We are running out of decent paying jobs that can support a family, when those jobs existed a decade ago. Perhaps we should be asking, why do we no longer have those jobs here in the country, and what can we do to bring them back? American's are too divided to do this though. They love to wag their stupid little fingers and say "shame on you". Fine, let your greatest form of infrastructure rot, your children.
people go on public assistance because public assistance creates the need. you pay people minimum wage when government will cover necessities for anyone earning below a certain level. its like something i mentioned in another thread about this show where lunch ladies mentioned how kids didnt eat at home, only in school. they thought it was because the parents couldnt afford food, but thats wrong. the parents were able to choose not to buy food, because the taxpayers were providing it for free. if the school lunch/breakfast wasnt available, the kids wouldnt starve.
people go on public assistance because public assistance creates the need. you pay people minimum wage when government will cover necessities for anyone earning below a certain level. its like something i mentioned in another thread about this show where lunch ladies mentioned how kids didnt eat at home, only in school. they thought it was because the parents couldnt afford food, but thats wrong. the parents were able to choose not to buy food, because the taxpayers were providing it for free. if the school lunch/breakfast wasnt available, the kids wouldnt starve.
Yes, but everyone demands such low cost goods and services, and businesses have found a way to provide that. By paying their workers less, and letting taxpayers pay the difference. It's not a good system at all, but it's the one we have in place today, and consumers will continue to support it inadvertently.
Yes, but everyone demands such low cost goods and services, and businesses have found a way to provide that. By paying their workers less, and letting taxpayers pay the difference. It's not a good system at all, but it's the one we have in place today, and consumers will continue to support it inadvertently.
correct, taxpayers shouldnt be making up the difference.
I laugh, because all of my father's side are Republicans who preach personal responsibility, but all of their children are on welfare with kids out of wedlock. I am the ONLY one who has lived responsibly, and yet, somehow I feel differently than them. I guess I should start being hardcore and relentless; it definitely makes more sense than the latter. Next time my pops asks for a loan, I'll tell that mooching SOB to get lost. Yeah, who is John Galt now b*****s!
I laugh, because all of my father's side are Republicans who preach personal responsibility, but all of their children are on welfare with kids out of wedlock. I am the ONLY one who has lived responsibly, and yet, somehow I feel differently than them. I guess I should start being hardcore and relentless; it definitely makes more sense than the latter. Next time my pops asks for a loan, I'll tell that mooching SOB to get lost. Yeah, who is John Galt now b*****s!
Just trying to be hardcore anti-compassionate. Am I doing it wrong? It's new to me, so you'll have to teach me your ways.
Can I say something like: "Screw those kids and their parents for their mooching ways. They're leeching off my hard earned money."
Is that good? Too harsh? Should I lighten it up a bit? Let me know. Since I'm successful, I would like to join in on this, too. It seems more fun than what I usually end up doing. I don't know why I spend time caring for other disadvantaged people anyway, it was such a waste. I didn't get anything out of it for me, so what gives? Figures, they are moochers after all. Ya know what I mean? Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand. High Five!!!
I think he's speaking to the divide among the generations. Folks do tend to become more conservative as they get older, that's typical. But as people come to depend on the nanny welfare state, that trend may decline. 1 out of 6 American's is on food stamps today, and around 50% do not pay into the system. We are turning into a socialist empire, and these folks are going to be welcoming it. Since jobs are increasingly paying less and less, More people are going to change there stance as opportunities decline. They will depend on hand outs to fill the void, and have no problem voting for the candidate offering those handouts.
Just trying to be hardcore anti-compassionate. Am I doing it wrong? It's new to me, so you'll have to teach me your ways.
Can I say something like: "Screw those kids and their parents for their mooching ways. They're leeching off my hard earned money."
Is that good? Too harsh? Should I lighten it up a bit? Let me know. Since I'm successful, I would like to join in on this, too. It seems more fun than what I usually end up doing. I don't know why I spend time caring for other disadvantaged people anyway, it was such a waste. I didn't get anything out of it for me, so what gives? Figures, they are moochers after all. Ya know what I mean? Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand. High Five!!!
I don't think folks are loosing compassion. The argument against all these handouts is not so directly apparent. If you get rid of welfare, people won't be so willing to work for a poverty wage. People formed unions nearly a century ago because there were no provisions in place regulating worker safety, and there was no welfare in place to fill in the income void. The free market was allowed to rule, and ultimately, a correction took place with regards to market labor rates.
The problem is, we don't have a free market here in America anymore. The price floor on labor (minimum wage) increases yes, but it has not kept up with inflation. So, forms of welfare are ultimately required to fill in the void, at the expense of tax payers. Just like how people won't work for $3/hr if you eliminated minimum wage, people will not work to starve if food stamps and other provisions were not in place. Unfortunately, people will suffer initially if these programs were scaled back or eliminated, but that's the way it goes.
Over 100 women died in a textile factory fire 100 years ago. Management locked the doors so they would not take breaks, thus sealing their fate. This brought about a massive change, and helped contributed to the rise of the middle class in America. People had to become motivated to stand up and fight for change, something we do not have today because of a lack of free market economics. Unfortunately, that loss was a prerequisite for prosperity. You simply cannot legislate prosperity though.
As your example about factory workers starting a business after working in a factory... Those are massive job creating businesses, and they would do wonderful things for the country. Your talking about an initial investment of possibly millions of dollars, for a business that is terribly cyclical, and runs on very slim profit margins for the first couple years, more likely a loss. What factory worker do you know that has that kind of money to invest, who can survive 2-3 years at a loss?! Not to mention how much of a cut throat business that is. The Robber Barons of yesteryear all went to China to exploit hungrier workers anyways. The average person simply doesn't have access to the capital, as banks simply will not loan right now. Just buying one used machine that is reasonable productive will cost half a million easily. A guy in a garage cannot pay down the interest unless he's running around 3 at one time doing production work. And that's where the knowledge of the market become extremely valuable, but it's nothing without the capital.
Now, if you wanted to start a restaurant or something, your going to create some lower income jobs, which is a start I suppose. Lots of those have been hurting these days, so I wouldn't be trying it. Had a friend that tried it. She was working a part time job and had a family to feed, so she bought a pizza joint. 6 months later, she lost it and is about to loose her home. These things are extremely risky, and yes, I would most definitely say financial security IS a prerequisite, something many American's just don't have anymore. What creditors are going to wait around 2 years while you struggle to post a profit?
For the folk with the money to actually create jobs... Unfortunately, it's much easier to jut plop the money in some investment vehicle, collect the dividends, pay the capital gains tax and enjoy some easy living.
Factory was indeed a bad example. It's easier for a service-based skill... such as journalism, marketing, etc.... where the cost to startup is minimal.
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