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Old 01-31-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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What you described sounded like modern day slavery no matter how you try to argue that you love it.

If it makes you happy, then we're all happy. But let's be honest that none of us wants your kind of job

agreed!!

Now, call me what ever you want, I do not want to work 60 hours a week. I do have other interests and fullfilments besides working, like most other normal people do.

I don't care what this "hnsq" writes, working 60 hours a week leaves no time at all to do what ever else you want to or need to.

the day is but so long.

he just doesn't, will never 'get it"


I was not put on this earth to do nothing but work.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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60-70 hours is not a lot of time. This is exactly why I said America has become lazy.

Equating more than 50 hours to slavery is stupid, at best. I have more of a social life than many people who work 35-40 hour weeks.



trust me, you don't !!
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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60-70 hours is not a lot of time. This is exactly why I said America has become lazy.

Equating more than 50 hours to slavery is stupid, at best. I have more of a social life than many people who work 35-40 hour weeks.
Really? You get to take out the trash at home and get groceries?

Come on, man By your own admission you work 70 and sometimes 90 hours. That's almost double the amount of what others generally do.

Nobody is becoming lazy. A 40 hour job is considered normal and it's the law. Besides, if a person is pushing more than 60 hours, I question his efficiency. Why does it take so long for you that you need 75 hours on an average?
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I love my job. But anything more than 50 hours is slavery. If I'm working 80 hours, I better get paid in double.

You make it sound like 60 to 70 hours a week is okay. Do you even have time to take a dump?

Me too !!!


I agree !

Absolutely !!

can you imagine?????


dumps online .com I am assuming
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I believe there is a reason for the 40hr. work week and it's not laziness. First off some people would like to do more with their life than just work. Apparently that's not as many people as I thought. It's amazing how conditioned some are that they have no idea what else to do with their time if they're not working. But anyway about the 40hr. week.

First off we need to understand there's 24 hours in a day. Recommended sleep is 6-8 hrs. Being conservative the 8 hr. day is a de-facto 10 hr. day right off the bat. If you take commute time,showering and dressing into account. Now I don't know about you but even when I was in grade school and school technically started at 8:45-9:00am,when my mom woke me up from a dead sleep to get ready, eat and wait at the bus stop by 8:30am, usually a cold bus stop, I was on the clock. I may not be sitting at my desk at school or work yet BUT when the alarm goes off that time from that second on is NOT MY TIME. It's the schools or my employers. Because if it was my decision my arse would not be up and sitting in traffic or waiting at a bus stop from 6:00am-9:00am in the morning EVER. So take into account how long it takes you to get to and from work.

So we have 24 minus 6 (conservative) for sleep equals 18 hours left in the day. To get ready for work, the actual 8 hour workday, and commute to and from work we'll subtract 10hrs. (again this is extremely conservative) So we have 18 minus 10 which leaves 8 hours for yourself and family. Not an unreasonable amount of time. But realistically you should sleep 7 or 8 hours so knock that down to 6 or 7 hours for yourself and plenty of people need more than an hour to be at work on time including the brushing of teeth, showering, shaving, doing hair, commuting, eating etc... So we're looking at 11 hours of your time devoted toward your work/school. So if you add 11 and 7 you have 18 hours devoted to or ordered toward work and not yourself. Which leaves 6 for yourself to unwind and do whatever: eat dinner, pay bills, run the kids around, go to a ballgame etc.. Some people with a longer commute and bad traffic going home are looking at even more time just to get in 8 hours of work.

Does it make a person lazy to want to be able to spend their time on earth the way they want to spend it for a certain amount of the day? And school kids have homework and some 8 hour employees have take home work. I think 8 hours a day is more than reasonable because most people don't live 15-30min. from their place of employment.

Another great point brought up in this thread is that work should be more spread out. Too few people hogging way too many hours.

yes, in the mind of hnsq it does


It really is amazing that there are some people in the world that feel other than working there is no purpose to living, apparantly this is one of them.

It is actually sad that the other poster has nothing else in life fufilling other than work, but i guess it happens.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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yes, in the mind of hnsq it does


It really is amazing that there are some people in the world that feel other than working there is no purpose to living, apparantly this is one of them.

It is actually sad that the other poster has nothing else in life fufilling other than work, but i guess it happens.
I really hope he doesn't work 80 hours. Perhaps he was kidding.

Everybody loves to work. Everybody's a workaholic. But 50 hours is the upper limit. There's no excuse to working above that, unless there is a life-changing deadline, like the President called you to DC to find a solution to bail out Bank of America. Only they are justified to get to work all night given the dire situation
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Really? You get to take out the trash at home and get groceries?

Come on, man By your own admission you work 70 and sometimes 90 hours. That's almost double the amount of what others generally do.

Nobody is becoming lazy. A 40 hour job is considered normal and it's the law. Besides, if a person is pushing more than 60 hours, I question his efficiency. Why does it take so long for you that you need 75 hours on an average?





yes, I too have to question it as well.

why does it take him so long to do his work that he needs to be there all those hours.

lets see if he changes his tune when he gets married or has children, yeah, lets see how many hours he works then..........................
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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yes, I too have to question it as well.

why does it take him so long to do his work that he needs to be there all those hours.

lets see if he changes his tune when he gets married or has children, yeah, lets see how many hours he works then..........................
I think he was trying to show off, like some type of macho thing, so all of us "lazy" less than 50 hour worker bees will say wow and give out a badge of admiration. But there is a reason why the majority of the world, even CEO's try not to work harder....

If I have to customize Jack Nicholson from the departed

"You see, none of us work more than 50 hours coz, in this country, it doesn't add inches to your d**k, it becomes a life sentence"
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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trust me, you don't !!
Last week I worked 60 hours, went out to dinner three nights, got drinks with friends one night and went ice skating with a group as well. Does the average person do that much socially in a week? You can be the judge.

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Really? You get to take out the trash at home and get groceries?

Come on, man By your own admission you work 70 and sometimes 90 hours. That's almost double the amount of what others generally do.

Nobody is becoming lazy. A 40 hour job is considered normal and it's the law. Besides, if a person is pushing more than 60 hours, I question his efficiency. Why does it take so long for you that you need 75 hours on an average?
70 hours is very doable. Anything beyond that cuts into my social life. 70 hours is the max I can personally do. A 40 hour week is not 'the law'. For people like me who get a salary, no one who is anyone works a 40 hour week. 40 hour weeks are for salaried employees and the office worker who has no aspirations of growing their career. A 40 hour week is only 'the law' for easier professions.

You are absolutely clueless about how many industries work. Doctors, investment bankers, consultants, those are three industries in which the average worker is more efficient and puts in more effort than most other workers and yet they all average 70+ hour weeks. We live in very different worlds. In my world, every one of my coworkers has at least a six figure salary by 30 years old (at the latest). Every person I work with is heads down working 50-70 hours/week (with a few obvious 5 minute breaks to have a brain dump). Most people simply never push themselves and never realize how much they can accomplish.

Did you just blow by the schedule I posted? Try reading before posting slick. I have 4-5 hours/night on a work day of pure free time, and that is disregarding the weekend. Are you not able to 'get groceries and take out the trash' in less than four hours? Good lord. With attitudes like yours, no wonder this country's economy is in the tubes.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: The Wild Wild West
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Last week I worked 60 hours, went out to dinner three nights, got drinks with friends one night and went ice skating with a group as well. Does the average person do that much socially in a week? You can be the judge.
What does the 'average person' have to do with anything?
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You are absolutely clueless about how many industries work. Doctors, investment bankers, consultants, those are three industries in which the average worker is more efficient and puts in more effort than most other workers and yet they all average 70+ hour weeks. We live in very different worlds. In my world, every one of my coworkers has at least a six figure salary by 30 years old (at the latest). Every person I work with is heads down working 50-70 hours/week (with a few obvious 5 minute breaks to have a brain dump). Most people simply never push themselves and never realize how much they can accomplish.
Define 'efficient' in this context.
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Did you just blow by the schedule I posted? Try reading before posting slick. I have 4-5 hours/night on a work day of pure free time, and that is disregarding the weekend. Are you not able to 'get groceries and take out the trash' in less than four hours? Good lord. With attitudes like yours, no wonder this country's economy is in the tubes.
I don't consider your schedule a priori unreasonable.

Your schedule does marginalize all activities other than work by delegating them to specific times (usually night) with far less total time than is allotted to work.

Loving your job is good. But you have to love your job more than everything else in your life to an extent proportional to the amount by which other activities are marginalized.

Do you?
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