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Old 03-04-2012, 10:45 PM
 
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Bad prospects: pharmacists, auto mechanic

Good prospects: physicians



There's going to be a flood of pharmacists, which will keep a lid on salaries. In the last 15 years I've noticed pharmacy schools popping up like dandelions, and they aren't very selective. The barrier of entry seems to be declining: it only takes 5 years to get a pharm.D now. (i.e., 2 years community college + 3 years pharm school). I know 2 pharmacists who went straight from JC to Pharm school.

Physicians will continue to be in demand and will continue to command top dollar. There aren't any new medical schools, and they remain very selective due to the industry intentionally controlling the labor pool. BTW guess which lobbyist organization spent the most money? Not Exxon, not GE, not some pharmaceutical giant or bank. It's the American Medical Association.

As for auto mechanics, they're a dying breed. Cars are just too reliable now. I have not had an unscheduled repair in the last 75k miles for all my cars combined.
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Old 03-05-2012, 06:29 AM
 
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Its going to be blue collar jobs like truck drivers and other professions where you need licenses + skills. As the us consumer economy collapses from debt most of our resources are going to be shipped abroad instead of consumed locally. Imports will collapse and exports will dominate. We will need to export food, natural gas, oil, timber, other products to pay back our debt.

All of the white collar work will be offshored and that includes the advanced technical fields as well such as medical research. The only exception will be for those who are at the top of their game (ie. the 1% best). The fact of the matter is that the emerging economies have made huge investments in education and the USA is no longer top dog in that realm anymore. Our research universities are the only exception.

If you want engineer, programmers, scientists etc you can get all of that in India for much less than the USA. They are at the same level as american workers.
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Old 03-05-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: In America's Heartland
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Health care... Docs, nurses, dentists, physical rehab specialists and psychiatrists. Nursing home management should be another growth area.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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If you want engineer, programmers, scientists etc you can get all of that in India for much less than the USA. They are at the same level as american workers.
No, they aren't. Sure there are some in India that better than some in the US, but in my experience the talent here is much better.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What line of jobs are going to see salaries/demand grow in the future and which jobs do you think are going to decline in terms of salaries and demand.

My view:

Growth -
Healthcare - Pharmacists, Doctors, Nurses

Decline -
Tech - Software Engineers, Systems Anaylsts (simply no need for these jobs in the US, all can be shipped offshore)
Education - Teachers (budget cuts in the future)
Admin type work - call center staff etc. (whatever is remaining)
Accountants - all this number crunching work is going to low cost countries
Real estate agents - will no longer need them, this role is going to become obsolete
Jobs like plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, landscapers, locksmiths, will never be shipped overseas so I'd like to think while they aren't futuristic, as long as the President/federal government doesn't try to deliberately kill them (like coal miners, for example) they won't decline, cause you to go in debt with student loans and it's "safe" to go into that kind of work.

I'd add librarian to the decline list and anything to do with travel and tourism due to ridiculous whack energy policy making travel cost prohibitive for the average Joe.

I don't see growth in the medical profession. I did before Obamacare. I think those jobs will be all foreign filled and pay less.

Do you see the day when all learning is delivered electronically to your home? I do. Maybe it isn't near future but it's coming.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:33 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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If you want engineer, programmers, scientists etc you can get all of that in India for much less than the USA. They are at the same level as american workers.[/quote]

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No, they aren't. Sure there are some in India that better than some in the US, but in my experience the talent here is much better.
I agree that engineering talent in the US and Europe far outclasses most of anything that India or China can produce. Heck even the Japanese are more derivative based thinking focusing on efficiency rather than breakthrough design work.

If Indians and Chinese are so great, where are the equivalents of the Zuckerbergs, Gates, Elon Musks (founder of paypal etc), Jobs, etc. etc.?

I could go on but I think you get the point. Innovation and outside the box thinking is in low supply in China and India because in the former country innovation is the product of unorthodox thinking, which is anathema to Communism (or in the case of Japan, Confucian "good for the masses" consensus-building); and in the latter, they simply do not have the infrastructure and social outlook for true innovation.

That's not to say it's lacking. There's plenty of innovation going on, but it's mostly derivative work.

Europe and the US have an free-thought education and original thought based society, respectively (the US does NOT value education as a whole but original thought, yes, despite what TV has you believe).

And before you jump the gun and say "well whaddya know about it" ... I know about it because I've worked with them before. I work for a large multinational corporation with suppliers all over the world. Trust me. We only use American companies or our own American workers for true innovation. The few times we've tried farming out the innovation and mind-bending work to other countries were utter failures.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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Net income?

Walmart Supervisor.

After all the $$ donated to the Universities, Banks, Government for the MD along with all the Medicare cuts with a nation that is fiscally bankrupt; Walmart supervisor wins.

Great job security as well. Just make sure you smile it's in the Job description.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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Innovation and outside the box thinking is in low supply in China and India because in the former country innovation is the product of unorthodox thinking
Also = success is judged by opportunities in higher education, which is in turn judged by doing better than your peers on a few really important tests to gain entrance. So their entire education system is geared towards passing a test.

In China the exam is called gao kao, and everything from the kids chances at going to college to the pride of their teachers along the way leans on it. So they are just memorizing, memorizing, memorizing.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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There are a lot of high-tech fields where America leads - that are unlikely to be shipped offshore (in the near future): nano-technology, robotics, artificial intelligence, bio-technology ... many remote data collection and analysis, etc.. Likewise, the medical fields and medical technology (digital records, telemedicine and remote, online diagnosis and treatment) will also provide a wide range of high paying jobs.

An interesting aspect of high-tech emergence ... is that the demand is often triggered by discovery and limited availability, which then drives a wave of students into the field/s --- 4-6 years later, the supply floods the market (eg; software engineering during the '.com' bubble) ... and the demand and wages level off .... awaiting the next big thing.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:25 PM
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Insurance salesman - the govt is requiring you to buy it

Shovel ready jobs... you know Obamas big recovery plan.
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