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Old 07-22-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I suppose a warm bed with a roof over your head and food beats sleeping outside and starving. How do you get to the point as a society where for some, losing your freedom is better than keeping it?
Societies go through these phases...I remember when wild kids from good families would hit the streets for weeks on end- get burned out - lose a bit a weight- start getting into trouble- They were picked up and old Scottish jailers would dress them in clean white cotton outfits...and keep them safe in the slammer till they cooled out- This was part of a civilized jailing system....Jails were not always about protecting society from the bad guys- Some existed to protect good kids from a bad society..It was an old British thing--If a good kid got on the wrong side of the law- Authorities knew who they were- and took care of them...kind of like private school for those that are good but who's families were not rich.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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As has been said this has ALWAYS been the case for some.
And it always will be the case for some.

The issue to focus on is how the raw number of that "some" has increased.
Or that it's necessary. There's gotta be a cheaper way of housing and feeding the homeless than locking them up. I mean, they're not in maximum security but in California we spend an average of $47,000 per inmate per year. I don't know how that breaks down. Nationally it's more like 30k, which is still a chunk of change.

Then again, Sacramento spent $240,000 per room to renovate a SRO hotel downtown...
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Or that it's necessary.
There's gotta be a cheaper way of housing and feeding the homeless than locking them up.
My comments was more about the nature of why there are more of them:
there are more of every category of humanity.

Too many in total for the Made it's" to find a place to accommodate the additional "also ran's"
that might otherwise be able to make it and who now move down among the "never will's".
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