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Old 09-27-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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If they do activate a tax like this it will be an attack on each countries "fiscal sovereignty" which is just another small step into a "One World Gov't".

http://freebeacon.com/taxes-without-borders/
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Making tobacco itself illegal won't work... but we could make the "cigarette" itself illegal.

Taxing is the only method available in a world that won't make eliminate the convenience of
the manufactured, packaged, advertized, adulterated industrial product known as the cigarette.
(note where I live)
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Here.
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Who the hell does WHO think it is?
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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Making tobacco itself illegal won't work... but we could make the "cigarette" itself illegal.

Taxing is the only method available in a world that won't make eliminate the convenience of
the manufactured, packaged, advertized, adulterated industrial product known as the cigarette.
(note where I live)
That's true, but you're missing the point, which is the sovereignty issue.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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That's true, but you're missing the point, which is the sovereignty issue.
Nah. That's just cover.
The point (as with everything) is the money.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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Cigarettes are the only thing you can tax without political fallout. Taxes have been raised at the Federal, State, County and City level. Fortunately there is no world government or that would be raised as well. But with the number of smokers quitting every year, who is left to pay the taxes.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Cigarettes are the only thing you can tax without political fallout. Taxes have been raised at the Federal, State, County and City level. Fortunately there is no world government or that would be raised as well. But with the number of smokers quitting every year, who is left to pay the taxes.
What happens is a harbinger of things yet to come.

Who will pay the lost tax revenue? Why, YOU will!
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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I think it's a good idea. As the CDC reports, worldwide smoking causes more than 5 million deaths a year , about 443,000 deaths per year in the U.S. alone.

And they estimate that cigarette smoking costs the U.S. more than $193 billion (i.e., $97 billion in lost productivity plus $96 billion in health care expenditures). Secondhand smoke costs more than $10 billion (i.e., health care expenditures, morbidity, and mortality).

Just think if even half the smokers in the U.S. were compelled to stop because of a high international tax --- think of the billions of dollars and the hundreds of thousands of lives that would be saved.

Also we all end up paying higher health insurance premiums because of all the smokers and obese people.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:05 AM
 
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Smokers kill themselves off and don't collect social insecurity, Medicare etc as long

Doesn't matter what they talk about, enforcement is something else!
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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Smokers kill themselves off and don't collect social insecurity, Medicare etc as long

Doesn't matter what they talk about, enforcement is something else!

I'm not sure about that --- smokers drive medicare costs up with their healthcare needs. They're going to require years of medical treatment for their emphysema, lung & throat cancers, heart disease before dying.
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