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Old 12-02-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Umm... What?

Most unionized workers I know do not get OT. The reason is the unions want as many people working as possible, and that means no OT if there are workers waiting for work. The few plumbers and electricians I know claim OT is extremely rare, especially at their pay rates of +$40/hr.

Non union shops are a much different animal. They find it cheaper to hire fewer bodies and make them work OT due to the obscene cost of health insurance. When holidays come, it's also cheaper to pay one idle body than 2.

If anything, it just sounds like work is slowing up and the companies are spreading the burden around, instead of resorting to layoffs. Maybe they grew a heart?
Ha! Unless you are with the UAW because they are paying OT & ALOT of it at their GM plants...
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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A new trend in my area is hiring for 25 to 28 hours a week, 5 days a week, but have the hours split up during the day. Example, 9 to 11 and then come back 2 to 5. These are office positions. Absolutely no benefits, according to the ads. They want to tie up your whole day for a part time job.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:58 PM
 
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A new trend in my area is hiring for 25 to 28 hours a week, 5 days a week, but have the hours split up during the day. Example, 9 to 11 and then come back 2 to 5. These are office positions. Absolutely no benefits, according to the ads. They want to tie up your whole day for a part time job.
How horrible!!!

What city or state are you in?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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The reason for cutting people to under 40hrs/week is so that they are not considered 'full-time' and do not need to be given benefits or health insurance. The costs of keeping a full time employee are not as financially feasible as they were 6 months ago so employers now are turning them all into part timers/IC's and the like.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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The reason for cutting people to under 40hrs/week is so that they are not considered 'full-time' and do not need to be given benefits or health insurance. The costs of keeping a full time employee are not as financially feasible as they were 6 months ago so employers now are turning them all into part timers/IC's and the like.
This is just one reason but the main reason for established employers is the demand is down, especially on manufacturing this time of year (most everything is already made for this year). They do not want to lose trained employees so they "short time" them which keeps the valued employees on the payroll as well as reducing their cost in line with the demand.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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This is just one reason but the main reason for established employers is the demand is down, especially on manufacturing this time of year (most everything is already made for this year). They do not want to lose trained employees so they "short time" them which keeps the valued employees on the payroll as well as reducing their cost in line with the demand.
While i agree with you that demand is down, i do not believe it is an annual cyclical issue that your post would imply. Demand is down across the board due to dried up credit, austerity, inflation and all the other factors that go along with this recessions. The reason for switching employees to part time, which has increased dramatically in the past year, is due to employee benefit requirements based on full-time/part-time status. The passing of Obamacare is the reason, like it or not.

I do agree with you on your other notion however, that employers would like to keep employees on the payroll instead of letting them go, but i believe this is primarily due the fear of having to pay them unemployment.

I would like to state that my comments are in regards to low-wage, unskilled hourly positions such as service and retail industry jobs, although it is happening across the board.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:21 AM
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Location: The Triad (NC)
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I do agree with you on your other notion however, that employers would like to keep employees on the payroll instead of letting them go, but i believe this is primarily due the fear of having to pay them unemployment.
Well, lets say that is one of several motivations.

Others:
Losing what training and skills that these people (who otherwise are not being fired) do have.
Losing leverage over the remaining people to take what the Co. is dishing out.
Losing the flexibility to occasionally bump hours without going into OT rates.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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This is just one reason but the main reason for established employers is the demand is down, especially on manufacturing this time of year (most everything is already made for this year). They do not want to lose trained employees so they "short time" them which keeps the valued employees on the payroll as well as reducing their cost in line with the demand.

And it keeps the employees from drawing unemployment if the company would just out and out lay them off
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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How horrible!!!

What city or state are you in?

Midwest.

These are office jobs -- not factory jobs.

And yes, the main reason for the 25 hours a week is the Obamacare.
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