Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-14-2013, 03:55 PM
 
1,473 posts, read 3,571,263 times
Reputation: 2087

Advertisements

The "entitlements bubble" is going to rupture. Someone ain't going to get their benefit or a much reduced one because the money won't be there. It's all funny money anyway. The economics for a household is the same for a nation. Spend more than you have and do that long enough, someone ain't going to get paid. Of course this might go on awhile before it occurs, but it will happen and the other bubbles won't matter. This president and this congress are nuts!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-16-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
319 posts, read 611,950 times
Reputation: 514
Answer: The US Dollar

We are the world currency. When we exceed 20trillion in debt there will be a very large and profane sucking sound followed by a loud POP.

This is what will precipitate the take over of the Yuan as the world Currency and a hybrid Gold Standard.

Meanwhile in the US, hyper inflation will be the order of the day, along with a massive deflation of the stock market.

We will invent the "New Dollar", we will then slide over to a Oil Based / Energy based economy. Why? Because our backs will be against the wall and we will threaten the world with an over supply of Energy. We currently sit on more oil and resources, 2nd only to Africa.

Our new currency will pay down our old debts and the vicious cycle created 90 years ago with Depression will start all over again.

Conspiracy theory?

Why else would our federal government have stolen land from Colorado, Utah, Montana and the Dakotas?

This is my wacko post for the month.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
12,149 posts, read 8,414,093 times
Reputation: 4190
The petro dollar.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2013, 04:01 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,823,165 times
Reputation: 18304
Mu guess is the really big one ;government borrowing to fund services and programs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2013, 05:51 PM
 
13,005 posts, read 18,896,239 times
Reputation: 9251
Gold is due for a crash, that is true. Anyone old enough to remember how it crashed in the early 1980s can see that.Once you can get a decent return on your savings is when it starts. And oil: Consumption is down in the US, the largest market. It will drop even more when mileage standards take effect. Oil usually commands a premium price over other energy due to its transportation fuel monopoly. But the premium today is not sustainable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 03:22 AM
 
106,579 posts, read 108,739,314 times
Reputation: 80063
gold was mis-priced in the 1980's like nasdaq at 5000 was. it was a temorary pricing error and should never have been there and it merely corrected itself to where it should be..

to judge golds value you have to compare it to the other asset classes.

if you want a yardstick to measure golds relative value ,10 ounces of gold on average historically bought the dow . we ranged from 1 ounce to 20 ounces historically so the average of 10 ounces is the average price..

that would put golds value in that respect at 1400-1450 an ounce. hardly a bubble today at 100 bucks more.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 03:37 PM
 
12,031 posts, read 6,561,999 times
Reputation: 13975
The money-printing bubble---followed soon after by the entitlement bubble.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
12,149 posts, read 8,414,093 times
Reputation: 4190
Quote:
Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
gold was mis-priced in the 1980's like nasdaq at 5000 was. it was a temorary pricing error and should never have been there and it merely corrected itself to where it should be..

to judge golds value you have to compare it to the other asset classes.

if you want a yardstick to measure golds relative value ,10 ounces of gold on average historically bought the dow . we ranged from 1 ounce to 20 ounces historically so the average of 10 ounces is the average price..

that would put golds value in that respect at 1400-1450 an ounce. hardly a bubble today at 100 bucks more.
Maybe the Dow is incorrectly valued.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-22-2013, 01:42 AM
 
106,579 posts, read 108,739,314 times
Reputation: 80063
based on earnings it is pretty much where it should be. it is no great value at this point but it is fairly priced.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:29 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top