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Old 01-31-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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Do research on "golden billion". That's the plan.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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Fine. We don't need any more mothers who make min. wage with 3 kids. They don't need the kids nor does the government need to prove absolutely everything for them. If you want 3 kids....make a decent living.
The problem is those are the people having them. The people who want to have a decent standard of living actually wait until they get married and have decent jobs before having them. That generally means fewer kids from people who are most able to do a good job raising them.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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there is plenty of room on earth for a lot more people. we are nowhere near any kind of overpopulation problem. the hatred of humanity that school have baked into people is disgusting.
I totally agree. There is a hidden agenda with all of this. The elites feel there are too many "surplus" people for their liking. They would rather we limit our own numbers so that way they don't have to deliberately kill us off with genocide, war, and manufactured diseases.

Just start watching the videos about the Gerogia Guidestones. The elites are telegraphing to us what they want to do...for those willing to open their eyes and see:


Man Behind the Georgia Guidestones Speaks Out - YouTube


And for the record, I don't have any kids....so no self serving agenda from me.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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The problem is those are the people having them. The people who want to have a decent standard of living actually wait until they get married and have decent jobs before having them. That generally means fewer kids from people who are most able to do a good job raising them.
Good. If you want 5 kids make a nice salary and provide for them. If you can't make a good living to your own kids then don't have any.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:29 AM
 
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This has got to be one of the outright stupidest statements I have ever read.
The world is grossly overpopulated and that overpopulation is the sole reason the majority of the world lives in desperate poverty.
Not so. There is a constant (known as "K", IIRC) that a biology instructor let me in on that showed that the Earth could support 50 billion folks...at the expense of every other species being wiped out. So, we're not technically overcrowded yet.

While there are definitely issues at hand, it's not overcrowding that is at fault in and of itself for why a majority of the people on Earth don't have access to clean water on a consistent basis. That problem was present before "overcrowding" was even imagined. Zimbabweans running off white folks who knew how to farm and thus turning that country from a net exporter of food into a net importer wasn't due to overcrowding.

You get the idea. Maybe? Eventually?
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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The US will continue growing even as Europe, Japan and other regions lose population. But will still get "grayer". Optimists say the increased number of retirees will mean more job openings but pessimists say old people don't buy many goods or services so fewer jobs available.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Good. If you want 5 kids make a nice salary and provide for them. If you can't make a good living to your own kids then don't have any.
No disagreements from me. But the reality is the opposite scenario is what usually happens. Humanity is programmed for survival mode, not quality of life mode, unfortunately.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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While there are definitely issues at hand, it's not overcrowding that is at fault in and of itself for why a majority of the people on Earth don't have access to clean water on a consistent basis. That problem was present before "overcrowding" was even imagined. Zimbabweans running off white folks who knew how to farm and thus turning that country from a net exporter of food into a net importer wasn't due to overcrowding.

You get the idea. Maybe? Eventually?
Exactly. The above is a perfect example which illustrates most of the resource problems of humanity are due to greed, hoarding, mismanagement, and downright stupidity...not population growth per se.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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Research suggests we may actually face a declining world population in the coming years. This will have vast repercussions to society and to the the world wide economy. Fewer people mean fewer paying to support the elderly and retirees. It also means fewer sales of goods and services, meaning lower economic growth, or maybe even permanent recession, with ever growing unemployed.


Demographics Too small of a working population base trying to carry to large of a non-productive population. What is needed is easy to see. Every able bodied person working at a high rate of pay. Are we going to do what it takes to see that this happens?
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:17 AM
 
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Nor have they thought through the longer term consequences of declining populations.
This is the biggest thing people ignore. Social Security systems throughout the developed world are based on the idea that the generations behind the current old generation are larger. When that stops happening, you end up with huge budget deficits, etc. as have been happening in Japan for 20 years now, and are now happening in Europe and the U.S.

Honestly, I wonder if these "growth is bad" folks are willing to give up their Social Security, Medicare and other benefits as the cost of zero or declining population. Somehow I doubt it
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