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Old 02-01-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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What is or should be the Base Form of Employment?

No matter if this is the global economy, the beginnings of the industrial revolution, or still living in caves, there must be some form or forms of work that are so basic to the function of society, that every other job feeds off of.

It used to be farming, and farm hands, and I guess the guys who carried buckets of water from the river, and the people who chopped fire wood to boil that water, or even the guys who brewed alcohol that purified the water. There is nothing more simple and essential than the production of food, and potable water. The blacksmith, carpenters who made barrels and buckets, and merchants got their referrals from those in food production. I will assume most humans would be employed in those endeavours.

Before that it was the male hunter gatherers. The females who stayed in the cave did everything they could the facilitate the males work, and the witch doctors hoped they were good enough to not get kicked out of the tribe.

But nowadays what is this base form of employment or at least what should it be especially for the USA?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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Intellectual capital.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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What is or should be the Base Form of Employment?

No matter if this is the global economy, the beginnings of the industrial revolution, or still living in caves, there must be some form or forms of work that are so basic to the function of society, that every other job feeds off of.

It used to be farming, and farm hands, and I guess the guys who carried buckets of water from the river, and the people who chopped fire wood to boil that water, or even the guys who brewed alcohol that purified the water. There is nothing more simple and essential than the production of food, and potable water. The blacksmith, carpenters who made barrels and buckets, and merchants got their referrals from those in food production. I will assume most humans would be employed in those endeavours.

Before that it was the male hunter gatherers. The females who stayed in the cave did everything they could the facilitate the males work, and the witch doctors hoped they were good enough to not get kicked out of the tribe.

But nowadays what is this base form of employment or at least what should it be especially for the USA?
I like the way you're thinking but unfortunately big business doesn't want to know, they don't respect the "base forms of employment," they don't want to pay for them unless they have to (or it can't be automated). Yeah, as the poster above says, something like intellectual capital is the only human work entity they care about. This is/will be devestating for the livlihoods of the world's people. How could it ever change? Only thru massive progressive government intervention.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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We are a nation that consumes more than we produce, and who's society is based largely on living some sort of lifestyle conjured up by MSM, I was going to assume that retail clerk, hospitality employees, and any worker that facilitates the "lifestyle" to be the base forms of employments. Construction workers/maintenance workers who build and upkeep the "setting", retail clerks who satisfy the materialism, and f/b service employees to start the action and keep it going.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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in the long run i don't see these people supporting themselves. Our skilled workers' productive capacity will eventually grow so large that it will be easier for everyone if the non-skilled workers just live off the government.

I don't think the service-economy will adapt to the numbers of people who need jobs. Toll booth workers and bus drivers and McDonalds employees will eventually be replaced by automated processes.

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Old 02-07-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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Yup. Persuading people to buy and use things and services that are of marginal, if any, utility, or even destructive to quality of life.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Yup. Persuading people to buy and use things and services that are of marginal, if any, utility, or even destructive to quality of life.
OR, educating people on why your company's product, which may have utility/be beneficial to quality of life, is better than another company's product, allowing healthy competition to keep prices in check and spur product improvements.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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OR, educating people on why your company's product, which may have utility/be beneficial to quality of life, is better than another company's product, allowing healthy competition to keep prices in check and spur product improvements.
Oh, educate. That explains why none of the information is ever false or deceptive or leaves out relevant details. In the spirit of education. In other words, every company's product is better than every other company's product, and salesmen educate us to that fact. And if a company's product was NOT better than everyone else's, they would pay a good salary to educators to educate us to that effect, because education is the single goal of salesmanship.
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