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Old 06-02-2013, 05:34 PM
 
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Whole lot of crazy in this thread. Slowly backs away.
The transition from reality to true (or real) reality...will seem crazy at times. Some may even giggle... then when it finally starts to "sink in", the crazy and the giggles fade.

Many people still may not recognize the connection between married and maritime law... thats another topic though.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Gibberish begets snarkiness.
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Gibberish begets snarkiness.
Do you believe I am speaking jibberish?
Well...then ask me about something I posted and why I posted it.

Ask me the reasons for believing what I believe and understand.

Then I will share...and maybe help clear up your jibberish thinking.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Do you believe I am speaking jibberish?
Well...then ask me about something I posted and why I posted it.

Ask me the reasons for believing what I believe and understand.

Then I will share...and maybe help clear up your jibberish thinking.
I think you need to stop huffing paint thinner, before we can talk to you.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Exactly. Employees receive income for creating value for their companies. Do we honestly need two threads for you to understand this concept?
A business has income. Income is defined as profit. It is profit coming in. The terms the irs uses is associated with corporations or businesses.

The terms are not associated with regular working hours.

An employee must work before a paycheck even exists. If an employee's paycheck was 'coming in' or income...then the employee would not need to work first. The check would already exist and be coming in.

If a business owner was vacationing in tahiti, he could still have income (value coming in) back at his business.

If an employee or laborer was vacationing in tahiti, he would have to stop vacationing, fly back home, get up in the morning, work all week, then he would receive a paycheck. That is not income. He had to go to work first, create the value, in turn, creating a paycheck.

An income check pre exists with value. The employees paycheck does not pre exist with value.
An income check and the employee's paycheck are opposites. One is coming in with value, the other is being created with value.

Even the word "wages" does not associate with regular working hours, it associates with 'overtime' hours.

Getting paid more than the hourly rate in overtime pay, may be considered income.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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A business has income. Income is defined as profit.
Fail, right here.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Machinebike's economic plan sounds like this:


South Park Underpants Gnomes Profit Plan - YouTube
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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Machinebike's economic plan sounds like this:


South Park Underpants Gnomes Profit Plan - YouTube
He came up with 2 of the 3 phases and you can't come up with the last one? Come on man, he did 66% of the work!
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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Fail, right here.
Burton's legal thesaurus
income--> business profits.

As I stated already...collecting an "income" tax from an employees labor is wrong.

A business uses profits to pay the income tax.

The employee has to use their labor.

The irs is a revenue/profit collecting agency associated with businesses NOT employees who must labor before being paid.

Forcing someone to use their own energy and labor to pay an income tax (profit tax), is not only illegal, but also unlawful.

Do you understand the difference between illegal and unlawful?

Do you understand where the law begins?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Burton's legal thesaurus
income--> business profits.

As I stated already...collecting an "income" tax from an employees labor is wrong.

A business uses profits to pay the income tax.

The employee has to use their labor.

The irs is a revenue/profit collecting agency associated with businesses NOT employees who must labor before being paid.

Forcing someone to use their own energy and labor to pay an income tax (profit tax), is not only illegal, but also unlawful.

Do you understand the difference between illegal and unlawful?

Do you understand where the law begins?
So don't pay them. If it is illegal surely you will win in court.
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