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What you've described is the dumbing down of higher education. We see its negative effects everywhere - even on C-D where supposedly college educated people lack the capacity for rigorous analysis and who lack the capacity for logical thought.
Physics 101 is Physics 101. If you can pass it at, say, Cal State San Bernardino but fail the course at Cal Tech, then there is something wrong with the way it is taught and scored at Cal State San Bernardino.
I'm really not impressed with the UC system so far. I get going there ensures complete hiring fitness in the State as we have an enviable array of companies recruiting from them....but it's long on groupwork and mediocrity in my opinion.
Whatever. I still hope the kid gets in. It's what she wants and saves me money if she does.
Not really one is a public school and one is private - each has its own scale what's is a passing grade and each has its own curriculum and most importantly each has its own agenda - like wokeness.
Agreed - close friend who teaches in Austin high school is not allowed to fail a student! The dumbing down starts in elementary through high schools so its natural colleges especially state sponsored dumb down to.
God it must be hell trying to hire qualified workers in alot of fields. So glad i am done with that and retired.
Agreed - close friend who teaches in Austin high school is not allowed to fail a student! The dumbing down starts in elementary through high schools so its natural colleges especially state sponsored dumb down to.
God it must be hell trying to hire qualified workers in alot of fields. So glad i am done with that and retired.
It's not that they're dumbing down the curricula. If anything the outcomes are more advanced by grade level than in the past. It's accountability that they're divesting in. There's no enforcement of deadlines, etc...
So they teach the students to the appropriate outcomes, but there are only weak enforcement mechanisms to demonstrate the student learned what they were supposed to learn. So if the student did basic work in the class enough to pass, that is; show up for class, they pass. The system just "assumes" they absorbed the information given and passes them along. This is going to get worse now that standardized testing is becoming unfashionable.
Being poor is like a vicious cycle, it's extremley hard to get out of, despite what people say.
Hard is subjective. America isn't a 3rd world country, and has the richest poor people on earth.
I was a burger flipper, served 10 years in the air force, got my degree, and became a contractor.
I didn't need any education, experience, or credentials to join the military. Any other country would've laughed at offering me any of the benefits the US military provided.
The first step to getting out of poverty, is dong something about it.
Hard is subjective. America isn't a 3rd world country, and has the richest poor people on earth.
I was a burger flipper, served 10 years in the air force, got my degree, and became a contractor.
I didn't need any education, experience, or credentials to join the military. Any other country would've laughed at offering me any of the benefits the US military provided.
The first step to getting out of poverty, is dong something about it.
Do you mean free healthcare, free college, stuff like that? Other countries routinely offer that to their civilian citizens every day of the week....
Hard is subjective. America isn't a 3rd world country, and has the richest poor people on earth.
I was a burger flipper, served 10 years in the air force, got my degree, and became a contractor.
I didn't need any education, experience, or credentials to join the military. Any other country would've laughed at offering me any of the benefits the US military provided.
The first step to getting out of poverty, is dong something about it.
Congrats - i only had 2 years degree and did all right. If you dont want to be poor then dont! Get off your ass stop crying about poor me, stop with the hand out crap and find a job, kick ass and become a valuable employee. Then take a chance on your skills learned and start your own business. America is the land of opportunity and i hate this dumb talk that you can not be successful.
I'm really not impressed with the UC system so far. I get going there ensures complete hiring fitness in the State as we have an enviable array of companies recruiting from them....but it's long on groupwork and mediocrity in my opinion.
Whatever. I still hope the kid gets in. It's what she wants and saves me money if she does.
I'm trying to understand your thinking. By any rational metric The UC system is the best very large state university system in the country and maybe the world per anything similar.
I get that the equity-police are all about dumbing down admissions standards and much of the social nonsense of the day still is in play across The UC System still it's a magnet for research and top end talent.
Congrats - i only had 2 years degree and did all right. If you dont want to be poor then dont! Get off your ass stop crying about poor me, stop with the hand out crap and find a job, kick ass and become a valuable employee. Then take a chance on your skills learned and start your own business. America is the land of opportunity and i hate this dumb talk that you can not be successful.
Reminds me of a conversation among a pair of middle eastern migrants, myself (migrant) and a black guy. The migrants were singing the praises of USA and the opportunity it afforded them… I was fairly neutral as I came from a stable country… the black guy didn’t seem to know how to react and was very reserved… simply saying “oh, you really think so?”… he didn’t disagree but at the same time I got a vibe of doubt and disbelief…
Millions come to USA without an education or a penny to their name and find a way through hard work… millions more are born here, grow up with the belief that the system is rigged and rather than get angry about that and fight to prove it wrong, they seem to fight to prove it right.
He was black, but that’s inconsequential to the story. There’s plenty of black, white, and migrant people who believe they simply cannot win… so they dismiss education, hard work and discipline and instead go the path of resentment, laziness and underachieving.
2c and probably not even worth that
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