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Old 08-20-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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http://www.strikemag.org/bull****-jobs/

Just read this article this morning. Haven't had time to thoroughly digest it, but thought it would make for some interesting discussion here at CD.

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Old 08-20-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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http://www.strikemag.org/bull****-jobs/

Just read this article this morning. Haven't had time to thoroughly digest it, but thought it would make for some interesting discussion here at CD.

Edited to add:
The auto-censor won't let the URL show up as needed for a direct link. It turned essential letters of the link into stars. The censored link will take you to the site's home; then just search by the name of the article.
Thanks for posting that, that was a fantastic article.

Fits in with my long-held belief that most jobs out there really are bulls**t jobs, that most people are working, just for the sake of working, when there's no real reason to be working so much. It makes a good point about how the people that actually do useful things like teaching children or building cars are vilified by a certain (ahem) political party - I've always felt that was wrong too.

Oh well, maybe one day people will wake up and see that it doesn't need to be this way.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:08 AM
 
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The politicians mobilizing resentment against people who build cars and teach children should be #1 on the list of BS jobs! Funny that you never hear them speak out about their own tax payer provided pensions and health care.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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In the long run every job is a bull**** job. Many jobs humans make for ourselves through lack of trust, lack of efficiency, lack of accuracy, putting too much time pressure on things, and being pains in the butt trying to get the better of situations.

This doesn't mean there is a vast conspiracy by a "finance capital" and the system was "produced by trial and error" by grand manipulators and controllers of these vast conspiracies. The author starts with a decent premise, and one we as a society need to address, then degrades into the conspiracies reserved for people wearing tin foil headgear by the end.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Thanks for posting that, that was a fantastic article.

Fits in with my long-held belief that most jobs out there really are bulls**t jobs, that most people are working, just for the sake of working, when there's no real reason to be working so much. It makes a good point about how the people that actually do useful things like teaching children or building cars are vilified by a certain (ahem) political party - I've always felt that was wrong too.

Oh well, maybe one day people will wake up and see that it doesn't need to be this way.
For the record, it's the unions that represent teachers and autoworkers that are objects of disgust. Mostly because the unions are screwing over the good workers, to the benefit of the bad ones.

Find me ONE conservative that doesn't like or respect good teachers.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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Find me ONE conservative that doesn't like or respect good teachers.
I've met plenty. They say things like "Those who can't do teach."
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Also I've heard it said that modern (American) society could maintain a 1945 standard of living with just 4 hours of work a day.

The question is would society be happy with a 1945 standard of living knowing what is possible in 2013? Would you personally be content to maintain your current standard of living for the rest of your years?
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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Seems like this is more "politics and other controversies"...
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:32 AM
 
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For the record, it's the unions that represent teachers and autoworkers that are objects of disgust. Mostly because the unions are screwing over the good workers, to the benefit of the bad ones.

Find me ONE conservative that doesn't like or respect good teachers.
They come out of the woodwork every time teachers strike. Just read the comments associated with such news items. They over inflate the actual pay of teachers by looking at the outliers (30 year veterans on the verge of retirement). Just like they did by claiming UAW workers are paid $70 an hour. Autoworkers Making $70 An Hour? Not Really - CBS News

Why focus on the so-called "bad workers" who number in the minority, to the harm off the good workers?

The politics of it are impossible to ignore. The Democrats benefit from strong unions. The Republicans will do anything to undermine that alliance, including creating resentment toward the unions, even if it requires throwing the good workers under the bus by creating an atmosphere of hatred. Union leadership is no different from management leadership. Each vociferously protects their own, even the bad guys!
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:35 AM
 
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I've met plenty. They say things like "Those who can't do teach."

Right on the mark. These guys love to pretend that the union is not made up of hard working people. Or that the fact they have negotiated good deals is somehow evil!
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