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Old 09-08-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: The South
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...for our friends in the North...

It has occurred to us recently that the South's economic strategy can be summarized in one word: "poaching". The South isn't creating new jobs as much as it is poaching them for other places. The South, with the help/ investment of the government isn't creating anything but fast food entrees, snack cakes and sugary soft drinks. Can anyone name anything that's come out of the South that hasn't been a byproduct of public investment or isn't associated with a food product that tastes good but is dismal or your health?

As. Southerner, I don't see how the South has made it without handouts from taxpayers, poaching jobs from other places or creating food products that are hazardous to our health.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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well I suggest you look at energy and then look at the fortune 500 including many tech companies. Toyota didn't build new manufacturing companies for no reason; just as GM and Chrysler would not exist if not for government bailout and unlike the banks they have paid it back while taxpayers made a pretty quick [profit on banks.Without government bailout to auto industry thing which region would have suffer worse than they have. So who exist because of government aid?
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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well I suggest you look at energy and then look at the fortune 500 including many tech companies. Toyota didn't build new manufacturing companies for no reason; just as GM and Chrysler would not exist if not for government bailout and unlike the banks they have paid it back while taxpayers made a pretty quick [profit on banks.Without government bailout to auto industry thing which region would have suffer worse than they have. So who exist because of government aid?
Technically the south...

They get plenty sent back from the Feds.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:22 AM
 
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Technically the south...

They get plenty sent back from the Feds.
True. The taxes from the northern states do seem to find their way down south.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:32 AM
 
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...for our friends in the North...

It has occurred to us recently that the South's economic strategy can be summarized in one word: "poaching". The South isn't creating new jobs as much as it is poaching them for other places. The South, with the help/ investment of the government isn't creating anything but fast food entrees, snack cakes and sugary soft drinks. Can anyone name anything that's come out of the South that hasn't been a byproduct of public investment or isn't associated with a food product that tastes good but is dismal or your health?

As. Southerner, I don't see how the South has made it without handouts from taxpayers, poaching jobs from other places or creating food products that are hazardous to our health.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
Offering tax incentives and cheap labor to foreign automakers seems to fall into the definition of "poaching". Not sure it is much different from how foreign countries work outsourcing.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:49 AM
 
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well I suggest you look at energy and then look at the fortune 500 including many tech companies...
Sitting on top of vast natural resources may not exactly fit into the category of job "creation". Much like Saudi Arabia, just pure good luck. Coaxing tech companies to relocate with tax incentives and low wage workers may not either, unless more jobs are created than lost.
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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well I suggest you look at energy and then look at the fortune 500 including many tech companies. Toyota didn't build new manufacturing companies for no reason; just as GM and Chrysler would not exist if not for government bailout and unlike the banks they have paid it back while taxpayers made a pretty quick [profit on banks.Without government bailout to auto industry thing which region would have suffer worse than they have. So who exist because of government aid?
The fact that the South is now attracting large businesses is evidence that the welfare they've been receiving from the North is now starting to pay off. If the south can start to produce on their own, it will be a big win for this nation and productive states can stop supporting the current productive states.

The question is, if cheap labor disappears from the south, and natural resources slow down... will the south be able to sustain itself without more government aid? Hopefully.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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well I suggest you look at energy and then look at the fortune 500 including many tech companies. Toyota didn't build new manufacturing companies for no reason; just as GM and Chrysler would not exist if not for government bailout and unlike the banks they have paid it back while taxpayers made a pretty quick [profit on banks.Without government bailout to auto industry thing which region would have suffer worse than they have. So who exist because of government aid?
Frankly, the US auto industry would not exist as it does without federally-funded loans that paid for sprawl and a public road network to move cars.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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The fact that the South is now attracting large businesses is evidence that the welfare they've been receiving from the North is now starting to pay off. If the south can start to produce on their own, it will be a big win for this nation and productive states can stop supporting the current productive states.

The question is, if cheap labor disappears from the south, and natural resources slow down... will the south be able to sustain itself without more government aid? Hopefully.
Cheap labor isn't disappearing unfortunately. In spite of the hard work of educators, the "education" policy of the GOP in the South guarantees a steady supply of barely literate workers for at least the next generation.
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