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In other words, lawyers are thin skinned and can't stand criticism, even constructive criticism which has been provided in heaps in just this one topic.
Glad to hear you're so proud of your profession. Unfortunately, your profession is regarded rather poorly by the general population. On some charts they're right at the bottom.
I would even venture to say these rankings are unfair and are based on the actions of a few who have sullied the profession. I know a lot of lawyers who are perfectly nice, ethical, decent people that I would trust to handle my affairs. You, I don't know--your postings reflect a contemptuous, supercilious attitude toward people not in the "priesthood". The ones I like are the ones who can joke about their profession, who accept that there are problems, who recognize that there's a lot of room for improvement.
I've said my piece and I'm choosing to write this and end my discussion with you. You have some problems reading. I didn't say lawyers couldn't stand criticism. I said we welcomed constructive criticism from informed people. Its exactly why we invite a number of non-lawyers to sit on the executive body of our bar association and help make policy. What we don't welcome are "lawyer-haters". I define this group as being against us no matter what we say or do. This group has become like "water off a duck's back" to me and I pay as little attention to them as possible.
Fact: There are winners and losers in any legal system because it is structured in that fashion. Losers are often going to be unhappy and virtually nothing will change that. This accounts for much of the criticism of the legal profession whether people can bring themselves to admit it or not. I'm not saying that sometimes the people who win don't end up losing because of bad counsel, a bad judge, a bad jury, or laws that need to be changed. However, it is not my fault. Nor, is it the fault of literally thousands of hard working, dedicated lawyers who pour themselves into their client's causes on a daily basis.
I don't pay much attention to public opinion polls. Instead, I try to do what is right for my own clients. I use forums like this to try to explain--to the open minded--why the system works the way that it does. If people don't like lawyers after having done that, I don't worry about it.
Your posts are an example of someone who largely does not know what he is talking about, probably has a very limited view of life, and likely has never wanted for money. If these things were different, your opinions would likely be different as well.
I think you'd be much more likely to get apologies and support from caregivers if they weren't afraid of being sued.
They get sued when they commit errors of omission or commission that result in grievous and/or durable injury or damage to others. You'd be sued if you did that as well.
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Fortunately, another state has made it OK to apologize without fear of retribution. Notably, the Bar Association opposed this law.
All sensible people oppose such laws. Caps on punitive awards are merely a get-out-of-jail free card for corporate interests who callously and wantonly expose the public to foreseeable risks of serious harm.
Your posts are an example of someone who largely does not know what he is talking about...
Very nice series of posts. Thanks for taking the time to put them up. Others will be stumbling across them for years to come and learning something from them.
A friend of mine was going thru a divorce and my friend's dad recommended the local small town lawyer.
Said he went to school with him and knew him all of his life.
Seemed like the lawyer dragged out that divorce proceedings for a long time $$$$$ and when my friend said he was nearly out of money and hoping for closure.............the lawyer said...."your dad has plenty of money. Start leaning on him "
I've said my piece and I'm choosing to write this and end my discussion with you. You have some problems reading. I didn't say lawyers couldn't stand criticism. I said we welcomed constructive criticism from informed people. Its exactly why we invite a number of non-lawyers to sit on the executive body of our bar association and help make policy. What we don't welcome are "lawyer-haters". I define this group as being against us no matter what we say or do. This group has become like "water off a duck's back" to me and I pay as little attention to them as possible.
Fact: There are winners and losers in any legal system because it is structured in that fashion. Losers are often going to be unhappy and virtually nothing will change that. This accounts for much of the criticism of the legal profession whether people can bring themselves to admit it or not. I'm not saying that sometimes the people who win don't end up losing because of bad counsel, a bad judge, a bad jury, or laws that need to be changed. However, it is not my fault. Nor, is it the fault of literally thousands of hard working, dedicated lawyers who pour themselves into their client's causes on a daily basis.
Where are these 1000's of ethical lawyers regarding the corrupt and abusive guardianships as well
as the blood sucking fiduciaries? Really, I would like to know. This "David" cannot fight the financially
bloated Goliath.
I've said my piece and I'm choosing to write this and end my discussion with you. You have some problems reading. I didn't say lawyers couldn't stand criticism. I said we welcomed constructive criticism from informed people. Its exactly why we invite a number of non-lawyers to sit on the executive body of our bar association and help make policy. What we don't welcome are "lawyer-haters". I define this group as being against us no matter what we say or do. This group has become like "water off a duck's back" to me and I pay as little attention to them as possible.
Oh pooh. You don't have to stomp off. No one here hates lawyers; we just think lawyers need more humility and maybe to stop working on contingency basis for windfall profit. That's not criticism; it's ideas for improving the profession and removing the sleaze factor.
Oh pooh. You don't have to stomp off. No one here hates lawyers; we just think lawyers need more humility and maybe to stop working on contingency basis for windfall profit. That's not criticism; it's ideas for improving the profession and removing the sleaze factor.
Who is this we?
Windfall profit?
Right, because every case is worth 8 million bucks and all lawyers are rolling in cash and driving Maybachs.
Oh pooh. You don't have to stomp off. No one here hates lawyers; we just think lawyers need more humility and maybe to stop working on contingency basis for windfall profit. That's not criticism; it's ideas for improving the profession and removing the sleaze factor.
Good grief, where did you get the idea there are windfall profits on every case?
Good grief, where did you get the idea there are windfall profits on every case?
There are bad apples in EVERY profession.
Please don't distort and exaggerate what I said.
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