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I guess I really struck a nerve since you had to resort to name calling!
So I guess over 6 million Americans living in other countries means it can't happen?
There are plenty of Expats so obviously there are places to go!
Or I'd be for states flexing their rights and ignoring the Federal programs and having their own ways to deal with issues. That's how it was until the Liberals decided to start infiltrating red state cities in order to influence them blue.
I guess they aren't happy living in the messes they make...they want to ruin it for everyone else too.
Oh, you are talking about expats, not Americans becoming citizens of socialist style countries?
Americans living in other countries who give their citizens socialist type cradle to grave benefits don't get any of those benefits, so your original post telling people to leave if that's what they want doesn't make any sense in the context of your latest post. Now try and come up with another weak "save."
Health care in America is not affordable, no matter who pays for it or how they pay. The reform needs to be in the people's presumption of the level of health care they are entitled to. It is currently costing about a half a million dollars in health care to keep one American alive and well through his lifetime. Somebody has to pay for that, and you can call it Obamacare or anything else you want, it will still be a half a million dollars, and somebody will still have to pay.
More presumptions of health care in America that need to be targeted to be reformed, which will cut that half a million dollars way down:
The pharmaceutical companies' presumptions of the level of compensation they are entitled to ... why does every other country except the USA negotiate REASONABLE prices for drugs with Big Pharma for its citizens?
Doctors presumptions' of the level of compensation they are entitled to ... why has being a doctor, particularly a specialist, traditionally been a big money profession in the USA and not so much in most other countries? Don't start off with high cost of education. Plenty of people have high cost of education and don't get compensated like doctors do in the USA.
Health insurance companies' presumptions of the level of compensation they are entitled to ... why is the business of health insurance a "for profit" business? Isn't this pitting the business against the consumer it is supposed to serve? Should there even be health "insurance" or should this be a non-profit business structured another way altogether?
Hospital and their administrations' presumptions of the level of compensation they are entitled to ... why are hospitals run lately in the worst interest of their patients and staff and in the best interests of their administration? For example, why does administration get bonuses if they run the hospitals understaffed with nurses and overstaffed with administrators? Are hospitals there to help patients heal or are they simply super-entitled workplaces to pad the payroll with administration positions and healing is just a by-product of this?
Great point. As a dual citizen I have looked at it extensively. Canada negotiates on behalf of their entire population. In America, were individual rights rein supreme, we get hosed on costs. It's easy to manipulate a divided population.
The propaganda machine is very strong in America. I have talked, and seen myself, extensively with my relatives in Ontario. Guess what, the hospital waiting times are the same 2-4 hours in the ER. Every time I have ever had to go to the ER it's 2-4 hours even in Newport Beach, the richest city in OC.
When my bosses business partner got breast cancer guess how long she had to wait to see an oncologist in Toronto, 4 days, that's it. Her treatment was complete in a few months, and she is alive and happy today
And yes there is a waiting line, que, the prioritize just like in triage. My uncle had to wait 4 months for an elective knee surgery, he was fine with it.
So since you are well read on the Middle East which of them are a Democracy
I was referring to the consequences of mob rule, which is what a true democracy is...I didn't say that any middle eastern country was a democracy...but I could see how some people could be confused by my statement. I'm sure the intelligent among us understood the premise.
I was referring to the consequences of mob rule, which is what a true democracy is...I didn't say that any middle eastern country was a democracy...but I could see how some people could be confused by my statement. I'm sure the intelligent among us understood the premise.
You are so far off ... so very far off.
Democracy means all citizens participate equally in government.
I understand, along with the rest of the sane, educated world, that democracy and mob rule are not homogeneous. That is enough for this conversation. Nice chatting with you, as always.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
It doesn't say to the democracy now does it?
I rest my case!
The post we were actually discussing ...
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Originally Posted by Cyborgt800
I was referring to the consequences of mob rule, which is what a true democracy is...I didn't say that any middle eastern country was a democracy...but I could see how some people could be confused by my statement. I'm sure the intelligent among us understood the premise.
... does not mention republics.
But do keep on jabbering away, adding more nonsense as you go! Cheers!
Maybe you missed the part about the US not being a democracy...but a republic...way to keep up!
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Have you had a few drinks tonight?
