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Yet, illegals fresh over the border are having no trouble finding jobs. Maybe because they gladly accept minimum wage and have a work ethic.
They also gladly accept being illegally hired with no Worker's Comp, no Social Security, no unemployment insurance, no chance of filing any kind of workplace complaint, no paid days off, no health insurance, no taxes paid, no recourse if not paid, and can be easily manipulated by their employers. Is this really the kind of working relationship that you feel that Americans looking for work should find acceptable?
They also gladly accept being illegally hired with no Worker's Comp, no Social Security, no unemployment insurance, no chance of filing any kind of workplace complaint, no paid days off, no health insurance, no taxes paid, no recourse if not paid, and can be easily manipulated by their employers. Is this really the kind of working relationship that you feel that Americans looking for work should find acceptable?
Since they still want the jobs, what they offer to the employer most is a strong work ethic.
I disagree -- what they offer the employer most is financial savings & employee control.
Work ethic is also not defined by the acceptance of illegal employment out of want of "better pay" than in your own country, or desperation. By that definition, kids hustling drugs for a large dealer would be much admired for their work ethic. It really just means that someone is willing to accept the unacceptable because they need the $$.
Work ethic is more complicated and refers to how you perform on the job & philosophically to a belief that work and diligence will lead to reward. It is true that American workers have been disillusioned in that belief for many reasons, but taking any job just to "work" is not proof of a work ethic. Illegals are not any more immune from lazing around at work or doing just passable work than anyone else is.
I thought of this thread when I was reading an article about the current crop of folks for whom UI benefits have run out. The fact that it involves a Ivy league lawyer with 23 years of experience underlines what so many in this thread have tried to point out; This is a huge, multifaceted problem that goes deeper than "just get a job" or "just move" and get a job solutions.
Among the problems we're faced with is an ever growing middle aged population that's out of work and aren't being hired as long as there are younger prospects out there. Until there's a focused effort on retraining and offering companies incentives to hire older workers, the future for many of those losing their jobs now is pretty ugly.
I thought of this thread when I was reading an article about the current crop of folks for whom UI benefits have run out. The fact that it involves a Ivy league lawyer with 23 years of experience underlines what so many in this thread have tried to point out; This is a huge, multifaceted problem that goes deeper than "just get a job" or "just move" and get a job solutions.
Among the problems we're faced with is an ever growing middle aged population that's out of work and aren't being hired as long as there are younger prospects out there. Until there's a focused effort on retraining and offering companies incentives to hire older workers, the future for many of those losing their jobs now is pretty ugly.
There isn't enough money in the system to pay everyone. That's it. Debt loaded assets have overhead and since there is not enough money in the system, it costs more money to use them. The cure is a quick liquidation to real market values to remove all the negative equity. Instead we jacked it up on meth, ya know cause creditors are precious even if they took on big step in destroying our civilization.
There isn't enough money in the system to pay everyone. That's it. Debt loaded assets have overhead and since there is not enough money in the system, it costs more money to use them. The cure is a quick liquidation to real market values to remove all the negative equity. Instead we jacked it up on meth, ya know cause creditors are precious even if they took on big step in destroying our civilization.
That argument is slightly disingenuous since the government is handing out farm subsidies to people with substantial incomes. Over half of the "farmers" who receive subsidies report an income of over $200,000 per year. Even congressmen take farm subsidies which I find outrageous, but for some reasons, the House republicans do not. Why do people on full Social Security benefits also get to collect full UI? Yes--I personally know 2 people in their late 60s who did this and also got the extension prior to sequestration cuts (and these are staunch Fox news republicans who live in an upscale subdivision and have pensions as well). To me those are the "takers," not families losing their homes and cars who cannot feed their kids. Then there are the extremely well off retirees who do not need Social Security, but take it anyway--for petty cash. Making people homeless will simply cost the country more money. People will take early Social Security and medicaid. If they continued to receive their meager UI, this money would be circulated back into the economy. Nobody has mentioned the unemployment that will be generated by cutting off benefits. A friend who works for the local unemployment office and spends 40 hours a week helping people find jobs is losing his job when benefits are cut. How many others in all 50 states will also lose their jobs? Stopping benefits is not a productive way of saving on the countries' debts when there is so much real waste that can be cut.
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