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Old 12-31-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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By the way: hot weather and business success, just start with Israel and India and work outward from there. You can find hot climates that are financially successful.. How about Hong Kong?
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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I was told once that the cold weather in the spring, fall and winter in much of America is a major reason for our prosperity. It taught our ancestors hard work because if you did not work hard during the growing season, you starved. And most places in the world that are warm year around have undeveloped economies.

In the year 2014, something drastic happens and every place in America climate changes to warm weather 365 days a year. With abundant rainfall throughout the year.

What impact would that have on America's economy? Would it cause America to boom or go bust?
You can test drive your scenario in Florida.
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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A REAL warming trend would be beneficial for food production and lower energy costs; it would LOWER the cost of living and make the vast majority of the population better off. On the other hand, a new Ice Age would be catastrophic for food production and energy costs--and the poor would suffer incredibly as food and heat become much more expensive.

And sadly, global warming is nothing but a political move to increase profits for the ultra-rich, as fossil fuel plants are force to pay the government a PENALTY for their supposed climactic impacts (TRANSLATION: the poor pay MORE to heat their homes and run their lights and the money goes to the very wealthy). The real problem is that we are into the cyclical decrease in sunspots that create Ice Ages (Articles: Sunspots and the Great Cooling Ahead) but by the time that is apparent, all the new taxes will be in place and invisible--never to disappear.

For many years I thought there was reason to believe that man was causing global warming, since I have no illusions that such an incredible number of human beings can exist WITHOUT harming the planet. But the scientific consensus is finally in: the harmful effects we have on the planet do not extend to causing the global climate to warm, or to become more extreme. Here's why I realized the global warming scam is just another attempt to make the poor poorer and the rich richer:

1. A comprehensive review of all the peer-reviewed scientific studies on global warming was conducted and published in 2013: "We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11,944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming" (Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature - IOPscience). When less than 1 of 3 could express support for man-caused global warming, even within the confines of their limited studies (since studies are typically narrowly-defined, because the resources to study larger problems are not available), we know that this idea is being pushed for POLITICAL (meaning money and control) reasons alone.

Amazingly, this same review was falsely referenced by countless liberal websites and media outlets as concluding that there was a 97% scientific consensus on human-caused global warming in the peer-reviewed literature )Study Finds 97% Consensus on Human-Caused Global Warming in the Peer-Reviewed Literature | ThinkProgress "error" so far off what the review concluded that it is only explainable by the INTENT TO DECEIVE. If you have any doubts at all what the study concluded, just READ the actual study results: Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature - IOPscience.

2. Countless scientists have put themselves on record as NOT supporting the hypothesis of man-caused global warming: "Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists" (That Scientific Global Warming Consensus...Not! - Forbes).

3. Even among meteorologists--who more often are television personalities (meaning they are typically very liberal) than actual students of weather and climate--"barely half of American Meteorological Society meteorologists believe global warming is occurring and humans are the primary cause" (The Latest Meteorologist Survey Destroys The Global Warming Climate 'Consensus' - Forbes).


Another key reason to NOT believe that man is causing global warming, is the fact that the warming trend STOPPED 15 years ago, while global emissions did not slack up at all. The fact that computer models did not PREDICT the hiatus, and even now cannot explain it, prove that the models predicting further global warming are WRONG--and are therefore worthless to predict the future.

If man's activities were causing global warming, the planet would have continued to warm over the last 15 years. It did not: "1998 was the hottest year on record and world temperatures have not yet exceeded it." And worse, every attempt was made to SUPPRESS that critical information: "Scientists working on the most authoritative study on climate change were urged to cover up the fact that the world’s temperature hasn’t risen for the last 15 years" (Climate scientists told to 'cover up' the fact that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen for the last 15 years | Mail Online).

The powers-that-be will stop at nothing to push this false idea because a TON of money is at stake. And as long as the rich don't have 100% of ALL the nation's wealth and income, they won't rest. They want it all, despite the fact that society cannot function when the rich take everything.
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