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Originally Posted by SAAN
$11hr gets you about $1250 a month after taxes and health coverage at most jobs and ill list just the basic necessities in life
600 Rent >>> get a room-mate and cut that in half, or get two room-mates to reduce it to $200..you save $400...as a reminder, you are not entitled to your own personal private living space.
100 Utilities >>> get a room-mate and cut that in half, or get two room-mates to reduce it to $35..you save $65...as a reminder, you are not entitled to your own personal private utilities, nor are you entitled to a certain amount of kilowatt hours.
Note that at this point you have an extra $465 in your pocket.
200 Car Payment >>> get a cheaper vehicle or buy a used vehicle, or use public transportation. As a reminder, you are not entitled to a vehicle of any kind.
150 Gas >>> use public mass transit, car-pool or find alternative transportation. As a reminder, you are not entitled to your own personal private gasoline supply.
125 Insurance >>> a used vehicle will eliminate the need for full-coverage insurance and reduce your costs.
220 Food >>> buy cheaper cuts of meat and less processed foods. As a reminder, you are not entitled to eat meat 3 meals a day seven days per week.
50 Cell Phone >>> get a land-line for $16/month...as a reminder, you are not entitled to wireless services, which are luxuries.
Note that at this point your savings are in excess of $600/month
40 Internet >>> Internet is optional, not a requirement......share living accommodations and you can gut your internet costs by 50% to 67%.
20 Home Alarm System or Gym membership >>> those are optional...as a reminder, you are not entitled to either.
Looks like the only ones entitled in your world is corporate masters having low wage labor.
well, that would simply be YOUR opinion. Of course, you have nothing to back that up either.
Setting a minimum wage in today's world simply keeps the bar low. If the market is allowed to determine the wage it will promote competition not simply give every menial job a false baseline of a low wage.
As has been the case for decades upon decades your party's policies, while well meaning, do NOT WORK
...........Setting a minimum wage in today's world simply keeps the bar low. If the market is allowed to determine the wage it will promote competition not simply give every menial job a false baseline of a low wage.
As has been the case for decades upon decades your party's policies, while well meaning, do NOT WORK
The whole tone of this thread shows that you are correct.
People talk about a liveable wage and a minimum wage in the same breath. As if everyone should be able to start their working life on second base, so to speak, and get an annual cost of living increase that allows them to "score" - and get a pension with cost of living increases to boot!
Australia is a country that offers a livable wage.
$17/Hr is what I call reasonable..............................
USA is a disgrace to humanity.
So. I guess you'll be moving to Australia soon, yes? Some information that you may find useful:
Columbus, OHMelbourne Difference Rent Per Month
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 798.18 $ vs 1,508.32 $ differential... +88.97 %
Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 667.80 $ vs 1,213.90 $ .............+81.78 %
Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 1,420.00 $ vs 2,762.75 $ ............. +94.56 %
Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 1,088.89 $ vs 1,778.37 $........... +63.32 %
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In other words, if you are alone you can expect to pay $1508/month for that same apartment that will cost you $798/month in Columbus, OH. And, because I'm a mean ol landlord, if everyone in America got a pay raise to 17$/hour, guess what? I'd be raising the rent.
Enlighten us all. I've given reason as to why the existence of a minimum wage is bad. Not to mention, the facts AND history is on my side. I've made no assumptions.
You've simply stated "you're wrong" and the above snobish drivel. The only erroneous assumptions are the ones you have taken.
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