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View Poll Results: Is the US losing its economic dominance?
Yes, But We can get it back 27 49.09%
Yes, and its too late to get it back 17 30.91%
No, were still number 1!!! 10 18.18%
Dunno 1 1.82%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-06-2007, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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Without any manufacturing?

Are we slitting our throat by continuing to move manufacturing offshore?
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:23 PM
 
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Without any manufacturing?

Are we slitting our throat by continuing to move manufacturing offshore?


Yes. If you dont build anything, its only a matter of time before you become completely cut out of the picture.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:31 PM
 
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Manufacturing is just another symptom of the problem.

Big picture is have some serious dumb going on the business leadership side. Most of the US business and technology decisions are driven by Graduate level folks -- about 5% or so of the population. But when you look at the numbers for who goes into business school and the MBA path -- it is the dummies. Don't blame me for pointing it out -- the GRE scores do not lie.

We have a long slug of economic and business dummies to get past -- GW and his type are just typical of the relatively dumb folks we have turned the keys to the Nation over to. Most think the object of the exercise is turn some bucks for themselves while screwing over the rest of US. Guess they forget that they are part of US. Just plaiin dumb. For a while the tech leadership covered for the dumb in the boardroom, and the masses of asses being Boxer the Horse. (from Animal Farm -- Boxer always said "I will just work harder." Wound up being shipped to the glue factory.)

But all of US cannot cover the dumb of them. When the folks of America figure out they are following fools, we might wake up and have a chance. But dunno.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:29 PM
 
Location: WA
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The US still has the largest economy in the world.

We are not in a recession and although it is clear there is a slow down in process it is not sure a recession is in the near future.

We could not expect to dominate the world for the long term and it is healthy that other countries are gaining ground... stands to reason that we will be a smaller percentage of the whole.

Although many companies have made bad decisions that have hurt competitiveness, much of the blame can be put on years of congressional decisions. Congress has spent so much time on politics and taking care of supporters that we lack effective policies in just about every private and public sector.

The economy in this country is still strong but some strong pragmatic leadership is needed to slow the deterioration of our position. It seems to me that government priorities continue to make it harder to do business in this country than others.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Security concerns raised as China fills U.S. medicine chest - Yahoo! News (broken link)

this just isnt good


and to be honest, its not so mcu the politicians as the voters

voters dont want real change. cause real change will be hard and pricey, and a congressman that votes for that will be thrown out. we want everything, we want it free, and we want it to not interfere in our way of life.

we want a fantasy...
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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We are still the engine that pulls the rest of the world. And there is nobody in 2nd place right now. Maybe in 10 years China will begin to get closer but they have a long way to go to even catch Japan much less us.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Unless we change our ways we will be reduced to a shadow of our former greatness. We are now just living off the accomplishments of past generations, and running up debts that will strangle future generations. The problem is that in order to solve a problem you must first recognise it exists, and so far we are not even near that point. The only thing we seem to be really good at anymore is being stupid, greedy, lazy and fat. The reasons we rose to greatness in the past is were that we were well educated, we worked hard, we had high maoral standards, we believed in the principals the country was founded on, and we were involved in running our communities, our schools, and our goverment. We don't do any of those things now, why should we expect to prosper?
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:18 AM
 
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We are still the engine that pulls the rest of the world. And there is nobody in 2nd place right now. Maybe in 10 years China will begin to get closer but they have a long way to go to even catch Japan much less us.

If you call rampant consumerism an engine.

By the way, China will be closer a whole lot sooner then 10 years. You should really read a book called China, Inc. It points out just how close China is, and how fast they are gaining.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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If you call rampant consumerism an engine.

By the way, China will be closer a whole lot sooner then 10 years. You should really read a book called China, Inc. It points out just how close China is, and how fast they are gaining.
i agree, china is gaining.

but china is going to start faltering soon. they are doing to much damage to their environment in an effort to grow. people are choking in the cities. rivers cant be drunk from.

they will have some big issues to face soon.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:35 AM
 
Location: The Rock!
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Manufacturing is just another symptom of the problem.

Big picture is have some serious dumb going on the business leadership side. Most of the US business and technology decisions are driven by Graduate level folks -- about 5% or so of the population. But when you look at the numbers for who goes into business school and the MBA path -- it is the dummies. Don't blame me for pointing it out -- the GRE scores do not lie.

We have a long slug of economic and business dummies to get past -- GW and his type are just typical of the relatively dumb folks we have turned the keys to the Nation over to. Most think the object of the exercise is turn some bucks for themselves while screwing over the rest of US. Guess they forget that they are part of US. Just plaiin dumb. For a while the tech leadership covered for the dumb in the boardroom, and the masses of asses being Boxer the Horse. (from Animal Farm -- Boxer always said "I will just work harder." Wound up being shipped to the glue factory.)

But all of US cannot cover the dumb of them. When the folks of America figure out they are following fools, we might wake up and have a chance. But dunno.
LOL great post! Just as Dilbert says, move the morons into management....
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