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Old 04-08-2014, 03:10 AM
 
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Forbes first list of billionaires around the world was 28 years ago. The last one was released a few months ago. Many names are on both lists. Only 4 names out of top 20 are from Europe in the latest list.

Despite having given away $28 billion, Bill Gates is still on top.
Do you think it is possible to fall from these heights to say a simple multi-millionaire?

Billionaire list 2014
1 Bill Gates $76.0 United States Microsoft 58
2 Carlos Slim Helu & family $72.0 Mexico telecom 74
3 Amancio Ortega $64.0 Spain retail 77
4 Warren Buffett $58.2 United States Berkshire Hathaway 83
5 Larry Ellison $48.0 United States Oracle 69
6 Charles Koch $40.0 United States diversified 78
6 David Koch $40.0 United States diversified 73
8 Sheldon Adelson $38.0 United States casinos 80
9 Christy Walton & family $36.7 United States Wal-Mart 59
10 Jim Walton $34.7 United States Wal-Mart 66
11 Liliane Bettencourt & family $34.5 France L'Oreal 91
12 Stefan Persson $34.4 Sweden H&M 66
13 Alice Walton $34.3 United States Wal-Mart 64
14 S. Robson Walton $34.2 United States Wal-Mart 70
15 Bernard Arnault & family $33.5 France LVMH 64
16 Michael Bloomberg $33.0 United States Bloomberg LP 72
17 Larry Page $32.3 United States Google 40
18 Jeff Bezos $32.0 United States Amazon.com 50
19 Sergey Brin $31.8 United States Google 40
20 Li Ka-shing $31.0 Hong Kong diversified 85


Billionaire list 1996
1 Bill Gates $18.5 United States
2 Warren Buffett $15.0 United States
3 Paul Sacher,Oeri and Hoffman, Family $13.1 Switzerland
4 Lee Shau Kee $12.7 Hong Kong
5 Tsai Wan-lin, Family $12.2 Taiwan
6 Kwok, Brothers $11.2 Hong Kong
7 Li Ka-shing, Family $10.6 Hong Kong
8 Tsutsumi, Yoshiaki $9.2 Japan
9 Albrecht, Theo and Karl $9.0 Germany
10 Rausing, Hans and Gad $9.0 Scandinavia
11 Quandt, Johanna, Susanne and Stefan $8.1 Germany
12 Haniel, Family $8.1 Germany
13 Allen, Paul $7.5 United States
14 Thomson, Kenneth $7.4 Canada
15 Kluge, John Werner $7.2 United States
16 Tan Yu $7.0 Philippines
17 Wonowidjojo, Family $6.7 Indonesia
18 Carlos Slim Helu $6.1 Mexico
19 Larry Ellison $6.0 United States
20 Chung Ju-yung, Family $5.9 Korea
21 Mulliez, GTrard $5.7 France
22 Kuok, Robert $5.7 Malaysia
23 Kwek Leng Beng, Family $5.7 Singapore
24 Cheng Yu-tung, Family $5.5 Hong Kong
25 Haefner, Walter $5.5 Switzerland
26 Knight, Philip Hampson $5.3 United States
27 Otto, Michael $5.2 Germany
28 Fong, Teng $5.2 Hong Kong
29 Ng, Robert $5.2 Hong Kong
30 Takei, Yasuo $5.2 Japan
31 Ermfrio de Moraes, Antonio $5.1 Brazil
32 Widjaja, Eka Tjipta $5.1 Indonesia
33 Liliane Bettencourt $5.0 France
34 Merck, Family $5.0 Germany
35 Berlusconi, Silvio $5.0 Italy
36 Bin Mahfouz, Mohamed Salim $5.0 Saudi Arabia
37 Lee Kun-hee, Family $4.9 Korea
38 Walton, John T. $4.8 United States - (died 2005) wife is Christy Walton
39 Walton, Jim C. $4.8 United States
40 Walton, Helen Robson $4.7 United States (widow of Sam, died 2007)
41 Walton, Alice Louise $4.7 United States
42 Walton, S. Robson $4.7 United States
43 Henkel, Family $4.6 Germany
44 Son, Masayoshi $4.6 Japan
45 Flick, Friedrich Karl Jr. $4.5 Germany
46 Liem Sioe Liong, Family $4.5 Indonesia
47 Landolt, Family $4.5 Switzerland
48 Newhouse, Donald Edward $4.5 United States
49 Newhouse, Samuel Irving Jr. $4.5 United States
50 Chearavanont, Dhanin $4.2 Thailand
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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How come no Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, Jamie Dimon, Ken Lewis, or any of the shadow bankers?
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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How come no Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, Jamie Dimon, Ken Lewis, or any of the shadow bankers?
Because a salary of 20 million doesn't make it into these sorts of net worth. And its hard to define some of these as they play havoc with their taxes to move and hide income I would suspect.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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A footnote of interest: In the inaugural modern Forbes 400 list, Myer Lansky was included among the wealthiest 400. His occupation was listed as Gangster. Meyer Lansky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Lansky is the real-life person that was the inspiration for the Miami-based gangster in one of the Godfather sequels.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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Because a salary of 20 million doesn't make it into these sorts of net worth. And its hard to define some of these as they play havoc with their taxes to move and hide income I would suspect.
Lian from Hong Kong also paid one of the largest ransoms in history for the return of his son, so having that kind of wealth does not insulate you from crime.

Just after WWI (1918) it was estimated that John Rockefeller became the world's first billionaire. Although this list compiled by Forbes at the time only included Americans, it is interesting to note how small the fortunes were. The nominal cost of living comparison from 1918 to 2014 is a factor of 15.55 . So by that means that the equivalent of a billion dollars today was roughly $65 million in 1918.

Only 17 people were worth $65 million or more, and only 5 were worth more than $130 million or more.


Name Estimated Fortune Chief Source
John D. Rockefeller $1,200,000,000 Oil
Henry Clay Frick 225,000,000 Coke, Steel
Andrew Carnegie 200,000,000 Steel
George F. Baker 150,000,000 Banking
William Rockefeller 150,000,000 Oil, Railroads
Edward S. Harkness 125,000,000 Oil
J. Ogden Armour 125,000,000 Packing
Henry Ford 100,000,000 Automobiles
William K. Vanderbilt 100,000,000 Railroads
Edward Howland Robinson Green 100,000,000 Banking
Mrs. Edward H. Harriman 80,000,000 Railroads
Vincent Astor 75,000,000 Real Estate
James Stillman 70,000,000 Cotton, Banking
Thomas F. Ryan 70,000,000 Traction, Tobacco
Daniel Guggenheim 70,000,000 Mining, Smelting
Charles M. Schwab 70,000,000 Steel
J.P. Morgan 70,000,000 Banking
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Mrs. Russell Sage 60,000,000 Banking
Cyrus H. McCormick 60,000,000 Farm Machinery
Joseph Widener 60,000,000 Traction
Arthur James 60,000,000 Mining, Railroads
Nicholas F. Brady 60,000,000 Tractions
Jacob H. Schiff 50,000,000 Banking
James B. Duke 50,000,000 Tobacco
George Eastman 50,000,000 Cameras
Pierre S. du Pont 50,000,000 Powder
Louis F. Swift 50,000,000 Packing
Julius Rosenwald 50,000,000 Mail Orders
Mrs. Lawrence Lewis 50,000,000 Oil
Henry Phipps 50,000,000 Steel
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